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Sunday, September 4, 2011

[SurroundSound] Re: PS3 SACD rips

My PC also can not read the disc showing nothing on it. That may be
typical for SACD though because a DVD player does not read SACD data.

On Sep 3, 12:36 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are we still talking about the links i gave you all?  they're the same as
> any other ps3 sacd iso rip.  use Imgburn on windows machine to make the
> disc.  It may balk occasionally at some discs but will usually present a way
> to make it work...like if your image file is small enough to fit on one side
> of a dual sided dvd...ect.  Im guessing this is why Im the only one who
> commented on the quality of the disc?  It should write to disc just like any
> other out there...basically your sacd player supports it or it doesn't.
>  There is no middle ground at this point.  Does everyone that wanted that
> file have the link now?  Just email me if you need it...
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 2:53 AM, polmuaddib <vladimirmalu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Sorry, I didn't read "linked ISO" I thought you were refering to all
> > of PS3 rips...
>
> > On Sep 2, 3:36 pm, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Has anyone attempted to burn the linked ISO to DVD? If so, what burning
> > app,
> > > what playback device/software, and what results?
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Daun Polod <daunpo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Can i have the link too? Thanks...
>
> > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:32 AM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > >> If both of you didn't receive copies just drop me a line and Ill try
> > > >> again.
>
> > > >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:30 AM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > >>> You both should have received links to the file.  I should note I
> > found
> > > >>> the linked torrent at another site than the original which seemed to
> > > >>> disappear from the internet.  So this version is not labeled like the
> > former
> > > >>> one I had which had indicated it was an up mix.  this one indicates
> > nothing
> > > >>> and doesn't really note the album or artist.  You should enjoy the
> > iso for
> > > >>> kicks and giggles.  It certainly made me think HOW bad I need the new
> > > >>> SACD...since someone seems to have done a relatively competent job at
> > their
> > > >>> home computer...maybe they should have hired this guy/gal instead of
> > > >>> guthrie...maybe then the immersion sets would only cost 100
> > bucks...lol
>
> > > >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > >>>> August,
>
> > > >>>> Seconds on requesting a private link to the WYWH.
>
> > > >>>> Thanks in advance,
>
> > > >>>> MrM
>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Stephen Disney <
> > > >>>> sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>> Many were burned by unlabelled upmixes and fakes across the board
> > for
> > > >>>>> years.  This is nothing new and regrettably unavoidable... except
> > if you
> > > >>>>> know your source.  I will send you a private link.   Also... have
> > you
> > > >>>>> updated to the latest foobar plugin version.  Maybe it was a cpu
> > usage
> > > >>>>> issue?
>
> > > >>>>> Last thing I will say is that if you trust our members here... then
> > you
> > > >>>>> trust the guys doing most of these releases.
>
> > > >>>>> August... can you link me in private to the WYWH upmix?
> > > >>>>> S
>
> > > >>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:42 PM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>> I downloaded both the APP and PF upmixes to SACD that are being
> > > >>>>>> discussed here.  We are all probably aware these came from
> > (supposedly) Q8
> > > >>>>>> quad tapes that were at one time converted to DVD-A.  I downloaded
> > them
> > > >>>>>> fully aware that they were fakes, but I love both the albums and
> > figured
> > > >>>>>> what the heck lets see how well they did...Well, the APP wasn't
> > really any
> > > >>>>>> different from the HDAD...however, PF WYWH is leagues different
> > from the
> > > >>>>>> DVD-A out there.  Almost sounds like a studio release.  I almost
> > thought I'd
> > > >>>>>> gotten a pre release version of the new release it's pretty
> > remarkable labor
> > > >>>>>> of love.  Not to say that it shouldn't be labeled as an upmix (and
> > I believe
> > > >>>>>> the sources I have were identified as such)...but for something
> > someone
> > > >>>>>> likely made at home it sounds very good.
>
> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM, pj-mckay <
> > johnmc...@btinternet.com>wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>>> To Stephen and Hardlock Cafe...
>
> > > >>>>>>> I agree with what you're saying and I trust you guys implicitely
> > but
> > > >>>>>>> the PS3 rip thing is clearly in its infancy and the availability
> > of
> > > >>>>>>> rips is a great thing for the future.  I think the audio market
> > will
> > > >>>>>>> have to look at releasing in file form at some point, especially
> > with
> > > >>>>>>> all this work.  Media players, Oppo with disk/file access, etc
> > and
> > > >>>>>>> get
> > > >>>>>>> away from optical is the future in my mind.  I dont mind paying
> > for
> > > >>>>>>> good quality but some of the recent prices being quoted are
> > > >>>>>>> ridiculous.  All your comments are appreciated.
>
> > > >>>>>>> Excluding you guys and the folk you say you trust....   someone
> > will
> > > >>>>>>> release standard stuff packaged and named wrongly, and some of us
> > > >>>>>>> might be fooled.  I guess you could say that's tough, and I guess
> > we
> > > >>>>>>> all might need to restrict ourselves to 'good guys' but I'm
> > fearing
> > > >>>>>>> us
> > > >>>>>>> being duped and scoffed at.  Again; so  long as I have the actual
> > > >>>>>>> SACD
> > > >>>>>>> I will be able to compare and say yeh or nay but I'd much rather
> > we
> > > >>>>>>> had some way of knowing genuine from fake (might not be possible
> > and
> > > >>>>>>> maybe it's irrelevent if I can't tell).  At some point I am going
> > to
> > > >>>>>>> download a 'ripped' multichannel version that I dont actually own
> > > >>>>>>> (I'll have the CD at least), and I am going to 'trust' it.  I'm
> > > >>>>>>> thinking of all the stuff Napster broadcast with the wrong tags
> > in
> > > >>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>> early days; and things like 'turning Japanese' being associated
> > with
> > > >>>>>>> The Kinks.  Once junk hits the internet there is no stopping it,
> > no
> > > >>>>>>> hiding it, and no way back!  It'll turn up for years.
>
> > > >>>>>>> ps  I have seen folk talk of ripping their SACD when all they are
> > > >>>>>>> doing is ripping the hybrid part.  They're not even trying to
> > fool
> > > >>>>>>> folk they're just not 100% aware of what they have done.  They're
> > not
> > > >>>>>>> stupid, they're not malicious...   just wrong about what they
> > think
> > > >>>>>>> they're doing.  And we can all be wrong about something at some
> > point
> > > >>>>>>> in our life (many points in mine)..
>
> > > >>>>>>> pps Brubeck download; It wasn't so much distortion as total
> > break-up.
> > > >>>>>>> And it was an ISO from another site, played through Foobar on my
> > PC.
> > > >>>>>>> It was my first 'test' and maybe I need to build a list of trusty
> > > >>>>>>> sources.  You guys and your own control of the Hub will be a far
> > > >>>>>>> safer, and trusted, environment. That'll be another lesson for me
> > to
> > > >>>>>>> take onboard.
>
> > > >>>>>>> Anyway...    A big THANK YOU to all the genuine work out there,
> > and I
> > > >>>>>>> sincerely hope it changes the distribution of music in future.
> >  It's
> > > >>>>>>> a
> > > >>>>>>> worthy dream surely.
>
> > > >>>>>>> On Aug 29, 9:13 am, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> > I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will say that
> > 90%
> > > >>>>>>> of what is
> > > >>>>>>> > out there labelled as PS3 SACD rips are in fact ripped as
> > described
> > > >>>>>>> by known
> > > >>>>>>> > releasers.  There is a guy on rutracker posting assembled ISOs
> > from
> > > >>>>>>> Pioneer
> > > >>>>>>> > ripped (special mod)  DFF files, but aside from the ISO not
> > being a
> > > >>>>>>> true
> > > >>>>>>> > archive of the original, the audio should be identical.  Even
> > so,
> > > >>>>>>> we are
> > > >>>>>>> > pushing for better labeling.  Yes... an I Robot upmix has been
> > > >>>>>>> posted as
> > > >>>>>>> > SACD ISO, but that was clearly labelled as an upmix.  Again...
> > > >>>>>>> labelling is
> > > >>>>>>> > key.  Also,  a well known pioneer of surround sharing has
> > > >>>>>>> resurfaced and is
> > > >>>>>>> > transferring other sources to SACD.  Again... labelled.
>
> > > >>>>>>> > Sure one could try to pass off a fake (but I don't think it
> > would
> > > >>>>>>> last
> > > >>>>>>> > long).  However, these are legit and the quality is there.  Not
> > > >>>>>>> sure about
> > > >>>>>>> > your distortion issue.
> > > >>>>>>> > S
>
> > > >>>>>>> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:57 AM, pj-mckay <
> > > >>>>>>> johnmc...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>>>>> > > There's so much of interest here, but most of it is very
> > > >>>>>>> technical,
> > > >>>>>>> > > and a lot of followers will be showing a lot of 'faith' in
> > the
> > > >>>>>>> > > work.
>
> > > >>>>>>> > > Taking a step back though;  Has anyone done much in the way
> > of
> > > >>>>>>> audio
> > > >>>>>>> > > comparisons - source to converted quality?   Aside from the
> > > >>>>>>> technical
> > > >>>>>>> > > differences I like flac as I play mine on a network media
> > player;
> > > >>>>>>>  I
> > > >>>>>>> > > could use the PC but that's not the way forward and has no
> > > >>>>>>> commercial
> > > >>>>>>> > > future IMHO.
>
> > > >>>>>>> > > I'm not trying to rock the boat but unless the quality is
> > there
> > > >>>>>>> from
> > > >>>>>>> > > the start it has little meaning to me and others.  No point
> > in
> > > >>>>>>> hi-res
> > > >>>>>>> > > noise, jitter, artefacts etc, and we're all aware of a few on
> > > >>>>>>> > > different recordings.  For instance I downloaded the a Dave
> > > >>>>>>> Brubeck
> > > >>>>>>> > > album jus to see what it sounded like; stereo seemed fine; 2
> > of
> > > >>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>> > > multichannel were very distorted and I deleted the lot.
>
> > > >>>>>>> > > How can we tell we're downloading a good rip and a genuine
> > sacd?
> > > >>>>>>>  Not
> > > >>>>>>> > > from you guys, but cowboys and kidders will stsart to jump on
> > > >>>>>>> this
> > > >>>>>>> > > bandwagon for a giggle.  We'll see upmixes, flac conversions
> > of
> > > >>>>>>> normal
> > > >>>>>>> > > CDs to
>
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