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On Sep 4, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Brian Treml <britre123@gmail.com> wrote:
> I pulled the Billy Joel The Stranger ISO and indeed there are issues.
> WinRar which will read ISO files states it is an invalid archive.
> Whien burned to a DVD-R using imageBurn my DVD-A/SACD/Muliti-Player
> which has never failed to play any material I have obtained states "no
> disc". I have not tried this on a PS3 since I do not have one but my
> guess is the header of these discs is only readable by the game
> system. Anyone else have some thoughts?
>
> On Sep 3, 12:36 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are we still talking about the links i gave you all? they're the same as
>> any other ps3 sacd iso rip. use Imgburn on windows machine to make the
>> disc. It may balk occasionally at some discs but will usually present a way
>> to make it work...like if your image file is small enough to fit on one side
>> of a dual sided dvd...ect. Im guessing this is why Im the only one who
>> commented on the quality of the disc? It should write to disc just like any
>> other out there...basically your sacd player supports it or it doesn't.
>> There is no middle ground at this point. Does everyone that wanted that
>> file have the link now? Just email me if you need it...
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 2:53 AM, polmuaddib <vladimirmalu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Sorry, I didn't read "linked ISO" I thought you were refering to all
>>> of PS3 rips...
>>
>>> On Sep 2, 3:36 pm, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Has anyone attempted to burn the linked ISO to DVD? If so, what burning
>>> app,
>>>> what playback device/software, and what results?
>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Daun Polod <daunpo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Can i have the link too? Thanks...
>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:32 AM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> If both of you didn't receive copies just drop me a line and Ill try
>>>>>> again.
>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:30 AM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> You both should have received links to the file. I should note I
>>> found
>>>>>>> the linked torrent at another site than the original which seemed to
>>>>>>> disappear from the internet. So this version is not labeled like the
>>> former
>>>>>>> one I had which had indicated it was an up mix. this one indicates
>>> nothing
>>>>>>> and doesn't really note the album or artist. You should enjoy the
>>> iso for
>>>>>>> kicks and giggles. It certainly made me think HOW bad I need the new
>>>>>>> SACD...since someone seems to have done a relatively competent job at
>>> their
>>>>>>> home computer...maybe they should have hired this guy/gal instead of
>>>>>>> guthrie...maybe then the immersion sets would only cost 100
>>> bucks...lol
>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> August,
>>
>>>>>>>> Seconds on requesting a private link to the WYWH.
>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>>>>>>> MrM
>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Stephen Disney <
>>>>>>>> sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> Many were burned by unlabelled upmixes and fakes across the board
>>> for
>>>>>>>>> years. This is nothing new and regrettably unavoidable... except
>>> if you
>>>>>>>>> know your source. I will send you a private link. Also... have
>>> you
>>>>>>>>> updated to the latest foobar plugin version. Maybe it was a cpu
>>> usage
>>>>>>>>> issue?
>>
>>>>>>>>> Last thing I will say is that if you trust our members here... then
>>> you
>>>>>>>>> trust the guys doing most of these releases.
>>
>>>>>>>>> August... can you link me in private to the WYWH upmix?
>>>>>>>>> S
>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:42 PM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded both the APP and PF upmixes to SACD that are being
>>>>>>>>>> discussed here. We are all probably aware these came from
>>> (supposedly) Q8
>>>>>>>>>> quad tapes that were at one time converted to DVD-A. I downloaded
>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> fully aware that they were fakes, but I love both the albums and
>>> figured
>>>>>>>>>> what the heck lets see how well they did...Well, the APP wasn't
>>> really any
>>>>>>>>>> different from the HDAD...however, PF WYWH is leagues different
>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>> DVD-A out there. Almost sounds like a studio release. I almost
>>> thought I'd
>>>>>>>>>> gotten a pre release version of the new release it's pretty
>>> remarkable labor
>>>>>>>>>> of love. Not to say that it shouldn't be labeled as an upmix (and
>>> I believe
>>>>>>>>>> the sources I have were identified as such)...but for something
>>> someone
>>>>>>>>>> likely made at home it sounds very good.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM, pj-mckay <
>>> johnmc...@btinternet.com>wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To Stephen and Hardlock Cafe...
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with what you're saying and I trust you guys implicitely
>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> the PS3 rip thing is clearly in its infancy and the availability
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> rips is a great thing for the future. I think the audio market
>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> have to look at releasing in file form at some point, especially
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> all this work. Media players, Oppo with disk/file access, etc
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> away from optical is the future in my mind. I dont mind paying
>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> good quality but some of the recent prices being quoted are
>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous. All your comments are appreciated.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Excluding you guys and the folk you say you trust.... someone
>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> release standard stuff packaged and named wrongly, and some of us
>>>>>>>>>>> might be fooled. I guess you could say that's tough, and I guess
>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> all might need to restrict ourselves to 'good guys' but I'm
>>> fearing
>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>> being duped and scoffed at. Again; so long as I have the actual
>>>>>>>>>>> SACD
>>>>>>>>>>> I will be able to compare and say yeh or nay but I'd much rather
>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> had some way of knowing genuine from fake (might not be possible
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> maybe it's irrelevent if I can't tell). At some point I am going
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> download a 'ripped' multichannel version that I dont actually own
>>>>>>>>>>> (I'll have the CD at least), and I am going to 'trust' it. I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> thinking of all the stuff Napster broadcast with the wrong tags
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> early days; and things like 'turning Japanese' being associated
>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> The Kinks. Once junk hits the internet there is no stopping it,
>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>> hiding it, and no way back! It'll turn up for years.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ps I have seen folk talk of ripping their SACD when all they are
>>>>>>>>>>> doing is ripping the hybrid part. They're not even trying to
>>> fool
>>>>>>>>>>> folk they're just not 100% aware of what they have done. They're
>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> stupid, they're not malicious... just wrong about what they
>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>> they're doing. And we can all be wrong about something at some
>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>> in our life (many points in mine)..
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pps Brubeck download; It wasn't so much distortion as total
>>> break-up.
>>>>>>>>>>> And it was an ISO from another site, played through Foobar on my
>>> PC.
>>>>>>>>>>> It was my first 'test' and maybe I need to build a list of trusty
>>>>>>>>>>> sources. You guys and your own control of the Hub will be a far
>>>>>>>>>>> safer, and trusted, environment. That'll be another lesson for me
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> take onboard.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway... A big THANK YOU to all the genuine work out there,
>>> and I
>>>>>>>>>>> sincerely hope it changes the distribution of music in future.
>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> worthy dream surely.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 9:13 am, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will say that
>>> 90%
>>>>>>>>>>> of what is
>>>>>>>>>>>> out there labelled as PS3 SACD rips are in fact ripped as
>>> described
>>>>>>>>>>> by known
>>>>>>>>>>>> releasers. There is a guy on rutracker posting assembled ISOs
>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> Pioneer
>>>>>>>>>>>> ripped (special mod) DFF files, but aside from the ISO not
>>> being a
>>>>>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>>>>>> archive of the original, the audio should be identical. Even
>>> so,
>>>>>>>>>>> we are
>>>>>>>>>>>> pushing for better labeling. Yes... an I Robot upmix has been
>>>>>>>>>>> posted as
>>>>>>>>>>>> SACD ISO, but that was clearly labelled as an upmix. Again...
>>>>>>>>>>> labelling is
>>>>>>>>>>>> key. Also, a well known pioneer of surround sharing has
>>>>>>>>>>> resurfaced and is
>>>>>>>>>>>> transferring other sources to SACD. Again... labelled.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure one could try to pass off a fake (but I don't think it
>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>> long). However, these are legit and the quality is there. Not
>>>>>>>>>>> sure about
>>>>>>>>>>>> your distortion issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>> S
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:57 AM, pj-mckay <
>>>>>>>>>>> johnmc...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's so much of interest here, but most of it is very
>>>>>>>>>>> technical,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and a lot of followers will be showing a lot of 'faith' in
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking a step back though; Has anyone done much in the way
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparisons - source to converted quality? Aside from the
>>>>>>>>>>> technical
>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences I like flac as I play mine on a network media
>>> player;
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could use the PC but that's not the way forward and has no
>>>>>>>>>>> commercial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> future IMHO.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not trying to rock the boat but unless the quality is
>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the start it has little meaning to me and others. No point
>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> hi-res
>>>>>>>>>>>>> noise, jitter, artefacts etc, and we're all aware of a few on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different recordings. For instance I downloaded the a Dave
>>>>>>>>>>> Brubeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>> album jus to see what it sounded like; stereo seemed fine; 2
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multichannel were very distorted and I deleted the lot.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can we tell we're downloading a good rip and a genuine
>>> sacd?
>>>>>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from you guys, but cowboys and kidders will stsart to jump on
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwagon for a giggle. We'll see upmixes, flac conversions
>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> normal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CDs to
>>
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