natively without the need for additional extraction or conversion, but
the Foobar plug-in itself does the conversion to PCM. That's why it
requires such a high CPU demand.
On Aug 2, 10:52 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone more knowledgeable than me should explain the conversion
> process, but I believe the end result is a PCM to FLAC. If I
> understand correctly, scarletbook is used to extract the individual
> DFF files and then a tool such as Saracon converts these to FLAC.
> However, there are some necessary intermediary steps. I haven't done
> the conversion myself but there are folks around here that have. There
> appears to be some debate whether there is a negative effect on sound
> quality with the conversion. I think the generally accepted opinion is
> the burnt DVD disc represents the highest quality. Foobar can also
> play the ISO without any additional extraction or conversion with the
> SACD plug-in.
>
> On Aug 2, 6:41 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > So then those files undergo some kind of PCM conversion right? I'm assuming the flacs don't carry the DSD signal? And what is the conversion tool? BTW thanks for testing that. I don't have any iso's of sacd's. Also any effect on sound quality to flac vs just playing a burnt disc? And by sacd-r I am thinking you mean iso to DVD?
>
> > August
> > Bleed Inc.
> > Selling art is tying your ego to a leash and walking it like a dog.
>
> > Sent from the BleedPod.
>
> > On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:01 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Unfortunately, it didn't work. I tested using the E. Power Biggs SACD-
> > > R ISO that I had previously burned to a DVD and which I had played on
> > > the Oppo several times. I used DVDFab to create an ISO from the DVD
> > > disc. I get the same "File Not Supported" message on the Oppo. I can
> > > play the ISO ripped from the DVD disc on my pc using foobar so the ISO
> > > is not the problem.
>
> > > I have SACD output set to PCM on the Oppo to let it do the decoding,
> > > but my AVR can also decode DSD (Denon 3808). So, I changed the setting
> > > in Oppo to send the DSD directly to my Denon, but that made no
> > > difference. The Oppo just can't read the SACD-R ISO.
>
> > > By the way, the Oppo can can play FLAC files created from the SACD-R
> > > ISO, just not the ISO directly. Either a DVD disc has to be burned, or
> > > FLAC files created from the ISO.
>
> > > On Aug 2, 12:24 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Thanks so much feel free to email me personally as well. Like I said I
> > >> would like to report the results so that others who are attempting to do
> > >> this have an idea if it is going to work...we are all sorta holding our
> > >> breaths...and I can't get on the hub to grab an sacd iso to try this stuff
> > >> out myself...I don't need to confirm that your receiver decodes DSD and all
> > >> that right? I'm trying to be certain if it indeed does not work that it is
> > >> not some hardware limitation...but if you got the DVD to work...then i guess
> > >> I answered my own question!!! Anyway let us know!!!!
>
> > >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> hmmm.... interesting, I'll try it and see what happens.
>
> > >>> On Aug 2, 11:57 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> You said that the oppo won't play sacd iso's from the attached HDD right?
> > >>>> But you said it would play the resultant file ripped to a DVD? Have you
> > >>>> tried taking the ripped DVD and making an .iso out of that? It sounds
> > >>>> counterintuitive because they should be the same file. But Im thinking
> > >>> that
> > >>>> may be the workaround. Would ya try it and lemme know? We are really
> > >>>> hoping this support pans out somehow. I'd like to share this information
> > >>>> with some others if you can confirm for me. Thanks. Oh and thanks for
> > >>> the
> > >>>> compliment on the thread. Hoping it helps.
>
> > >>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:30 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> I am currently creating ISO's of all my disc media, including DVD-V's
> > >>>>> and Blu-rays, as well as my DVD-A's which are already completed. I am
> > >>>>> quickly filling up lots of hard drive space, especially with the Blu-
> > >>>>> rays.
>
> > >>>>> Be aware that the one ISO that will not currently play on the Oppo are
> > >>>>> the SACD-R ISO's. They will play on burned DVD-R discs, but not from
> > >>>>> the ISO.
>
> > >>>>> On Aug 1, 10:19 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> yes i meant precisely what I wrote. You can access all your discs by
> > >>>>> making
> > >>>>>> images of them and attaching an ntfs formatted drive to the oppo and
> > >>>>>> pressing a disk image to play it. You need to have the latest
> > >>> firmware
> > >>>>>> installed for this to work.
>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:16 PM, citysoundman <
> > >>> bobkirschn...@gmail.com
> > >>>>>> wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks so much for the info. Would you mind just clarifying for me:
> > >>>>>>> > You can't stream an iso but you can most definitely play an iso
> > >>> of
> > >>>>>>> a DVD-A,
> > >>>>>>>> a DVD, a BluRay, a 3dBluray, and the ability to play AVCHD files
> > >>> by
> > >>>>> just
> > >>>>>>>> selecting the BDMV file folder and it will treat the folder as a
> > >>> disc
> > >>>>>>> image
> > >>>>>>>> as well with the expected menus and DTS-HD MSTR support and the
> > >>> like.
>
> > >>>>>>> Do you mean specifically playing an iso from the Oppo BDP93
> > >>> attached
> > >>>>>>> storage?
> > >>>>>>> The BDP93 can access any of these file types if they are iso's?
> > >>>>>>> If so, then would it make sense to keep my iso collection on a
> > >>> drive
> > >>>>>>> attached to the Oppo, while keeping my flacs on a streaming server?
> > >>>>>>> That sounds like a good arrangement.
>
> > >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 6:44 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> As
> > >>>>>>>> per the other person, you can stream VOB depending on your media
> > >>>>> server,
> > >>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>> AOB can't be streamed either. One program, Playback media server
> > >>> on
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>>> mac
> > >>>>>>>> provides playback of m2ts music files with DTS HD MSTR support
> > >>> over
> > >>>>>>> DLNA
> > >>>>>>>> believe it or not. However the performance was a little spotty
> > >>>>> streaming
> > >>>>>>>> that particular kind of encoding. If you allow the Oppo to
> > >>> convert
> > >>>>> it to
> > >>>>>>>> LPCM it sometimes will aid some of the hiccups that you get over
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>> network
> > >>>>>>>> without compromising the sound quality all that much. Hope that
> > >>>>> helps.
> > >>>>>>> I
> > >>>>>>>> started a thread at computer audiophile.com for oppo bdp 93/95
> > >>> users
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>> chime in about how to get things to play on the mac side. It
> > >>> also
> > >>>>> serves
> > >>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>> a place to ask questions and provides some basic info. best to
> > >>> you!
>
> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:28 PM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> I use Twonky to stream to my Oppo 93. Unfortunately, the Oppo
> > >>>>> supports
> > >>>>>>>>> the VOB container format, but not AOB. I have FLAC files
> > >>> ripped
> > >>>>> from
> > >>>>>>>>> most of my DVD-A's so they can be streamed via Twonky. No
> > >>> problem
> > >>>>>>>>> streaming multichannel or stereo FLAC files ripped from
> > >>> DVD-A's.
> > >>>>>>>>> However, since Oppo began supporting ISO's from attached
> > >>> storage, I
> > >>>>>>>>> now play my DVD-A ISO's on the Oppo from an attached hard
> > >>> drive.
> > >>>>> It's
> > >>>>>>>>> nice to have full menu control and access to any videos and the
> > >>>>> hi-rez
> > >>>>>>>>> stereo tracks from the ISO's. The hard drive attached to the
> > >>> Oppo
> > >>>>>>>>> also serves as a back-up to the ISO's on my PC hard drive. The
> > >>>>> only
> > >>>>>>>>> hassle is disconnecting the attached hard drive and lugging it
> > >>> the
> > >>>>> PC
> > >>>>>>>>> to synch/add files. There is currently no way to stream ISO's
> > >>> via
> > >>>>>>>>> DLNA, supposedly because the DLNA protocol doesn't support it.
>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 1:27 am, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have a bunch of DVD-A discs stored as .iso files. I mount
> > >>> them
> > >>>>> on
> > >>>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>>>> desktop (Mac), and I would like to stream the hi res DVD-A
> > >>> files
> > >>>>>>>>>> (Audio Object Files, or AOB's) to my Oppo BDP-93. Currently I
> > >>> am
> > >>>>>>> using
> > >>>>>>>>>> Twonky, and I can only stream the VOB Dolby Surround files in
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> VIDEO_TS folder, not the AOB files in the AUDIO_TS folder. It
> > >>>>> seems
> > >>>>>>>>>> that Twonky does not support AOB streaming.
>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to stream the AOB files? Or is it standard
> > >>>>> practice to
> > >>>>>>>>>> convert the files to Flac and stream them as Flac? I would
> > >>> love
> > >>>>> to be
> > >>>>>>>>>> able to stream the AOB's if possible.
>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>
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