process, but I believe the end result is a PCM to FLAC. If I
understand correctly, scarletbook is used to extract the individual
DFF files and then a tool such as Saracon converts these to FLAC.
However, there are some necessary intermediary steps. I haven't done
the conversion myself but there are folks around here that have. There
appears to be some debate whether there is a negative effect on sound
quality with the conversion. I think the generally accepted opinion is
the burnt DVD disc represents the highest quality. Foobar can also
play the ISO without any additional extraction or conversion with the
SACD plug-in.
On Aug 2, 6:41 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So then those files undergo some kind of PCM conversion right? I'm assuming the flacs don't carry the DSD signal? And what is the conversion tool? BTW thanks for testing that. I don't have any iso's of sacd's. Also any effect on sound quality to flac vs just playing a burnt disc? And by sacd-r I am thinking you mean iso to DVD?
>
> August
> Bleed Inc.
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>
> Sent from the BleedPod.
>
> On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:01 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Unfortunately, it didn't work. I tested using the E. Power Biggs SACD-
> > R ISO that I had previously burned to a DVD and which I had played on
> > the Oppo several times. I used DVDFab to create an ISO from the DVD
> > disc. I get the same "File Not Supported" message on the Oppo. I can
> > play the ISO ripped from the DVD disc on my pc using foobar so the ISO
> > is not the problem.
>
> > I have SACD output set to PCM on the Oppo to let it do the decoding,
> > but my AVR can also decode DSD (Denon 3808). So, I changed the setting
> > in Oppo to send the DSD directly to my Denon, but that made no
> > difference. The Oppo just can't read the SACD-R ISO.
>
> > By the way, the Oppo can can play FLAC files created from the SACD-R
> > ISO, just not the ISO directly. Either a DVD disc has to be burned, or
> > FLAC files created from the ISO.
>
> > On Aug 2, 12:24 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Thanks so much feel free to email me personally as well. Like I said I
> >> would like to report the results so that others who are attempting to do
> >> this have an idea if it is going to work...we are all sorta holding our
> >> breaths...and I can't get on the hub to grab an sacd iso to try this stuff
> >> out myself...I don't need to confirm that your receiver decodes DSD and all
> >> that right? I'm trying to be certain if it indeed does not work that it is
> >> not some hardware limitation...but if you got the DVD to work...then i guess
> >> I answered my own question!!! Anyway let us know!!!!
>
> >> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> hmmm.... interesting, I'll try it and see what happens.
>
> >>> On Aug 2, 11:57 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> You said that the oppo won't play sacd iso's from the attached HDD right?
> >>>> But you said it would play the resultant file ripped to a DVD? Have you
> >>>> tried taking the ripped DVD and making an .iso out of that? It sounds
> >>>> counterintuitive because they should be the same file. But Im thinking
> >>> that
> >>>> may be the workaround. Would ya try it and lemme know? We are really
> >>>> hoping this support pans out somehow. I'd like to share this information
> >>>> with some others if you can confirm for me. Thanks. Oh and thanks for
> >>> the
> >>>> compliment on the thread. Hoping it helps.
>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:30 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I am currently creating ISO's of all my disc media, including DVD-V's
> >>>>> and Blu-rays, as well as my DVD-A's which are already completed. I am
> >>>>> quickly filling up lots of hard drive space, especially with the Blu-
> >>>>> rays.
>
> >>>>> Be aware that the one ISO that will not currently play on the Oppo are
> >>>>> the SACD-R ISO's. They will play on burned DVD-R discs, but not from
> >>>>> the ISO.
>
> >>>>> On Aug 1, 10:19 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> yes i meant precisely what I wrote. You can access all your discs by
> >>>>> making
> >>>>>> images of them and attaching an ntfs formatted drive to the oppo and
> >>>>>> pressing a disk image to play it. You need to have the latest
> >>> firmware
> >>>>>> installed for this to work.
>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:16 PM, citysoundman <
> >>> bobkirschn...@gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Thanks so much for the info. Would you mind just clarifying for me:
> >>>>>>> > You can't stream an iso but you can most definitely play an iso
> >>> of
> >>>>>>> a DVD-A,
> >>>>>>>> a DVD, a BluRay, a 3dBluray, and the ability to play AVCHD files
> >>> by
> >>>>> just
> >>>>>>>> selecting the BDMV file folder and it will treat the folder as a
> >>> disc
> >>>>>>> image
> >>>>>>>> as well with the expected menus and DTS-HD MSTR support and the
> >>> like.
>
> >>>>>>> Do you mean specifically playing an iso from the Oppo BDP93
> >>> attached
> >>>>>>> storage?
> >>>>>>> The BDP93 can access any of these file types if they are iso's?
> >>>>>>> If so, then would it make sense to keep my iso collection on a
> >>> drive
> >>>>>>> attached to the Oppo, while keeping my flacs on a streaming server?
> >>>>>>> That sounds like a good arrangement.
>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 6:44 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> As
> >>>>>>>> per the other person, you can stream VOB depending on your media
> >>>>> server,
> >>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> AOB can't be streamed either. One program, Playback media server
> >>> on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>> mac
> >>>>>>>> provides playback of m2ts music files with DTS HD MSTR support
> >>> over
> >>>>>>> DLNA
> >>>>>>>> believe it or not. However the performance was a little spotty
> >>>>> streaming
> >>>>>>>> that particular kind of encoding. If you allow the Oppo to
> >>> convert
> >>>>> it to
> >>>>>>>> LPCM it sometimes will aid some of the hiccups that you get over
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> network
> >>>>>>>> without compromising the sound quality all that much. Hope that
> >>>>> helps.
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> started a thread at computer audiophile.com for oppo bdp 93/95
> >>> users
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> chime in about how to get things to play on the mac side. It
> >>> also
> >>>>> serves
> >>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>> a place to ask questions and provides some basic info. best to
> >>> you!
>
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:28 PM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I use Twonky to stream to my Oppo 93. Unfortunately, the Oppo
> >>>>> supports
> >>>>>>>>> the VOB container format, but not AOB. I have FLAC files
> >>> ripped
> >>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>> most of my DVD-A's so they can be streamed via Twonky. No
> >>> problem
> >>>>>>>>> streaming multichannel or stereo FLAC files ripped from
> >>> DVD-A's.
> >>>>>>>>> However, since Oppo began supporting ISO's from attached
> >>> storage, I
> >>>>>>>>> now play my DVD-A ISO's on the Oppo from an attached hard
> >>> drive.
> >>>>> It's
> >>>>>>>>> nice to have full menu control and access to any videos and the
> >>>>> hi-rez
> >>>>>>>>> stereo tracks from the ISO's. The hard drive attached to the
> >>> Oppo
> >>>>>>>>> also serves as a back-up to the ISO's on my PC hard drive. The
> >>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>> hassle is disconnecting the attached hard drive and lugging it
> >>> the
> >>>>> PC
> >>>>>>>>> to synch/add files. There is currently no way to stream ISO's
> >>> via
> >>>>>>>>> DLNA, supposedly because the DLNA protocol doesn't support it.
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 1:27 am, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I have a bunch of DVD-A discs stored as .iso files. I mount
> >>> them
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>> desktop (Mac), and I would like to stream the hi res DVD-A
> >>> files
> >>>>>>>>>> (Audio Object Files, or AOB's) to my Oppo BDP-93. Currently I
> >>> am
> >>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>> Twonky, and I can only stream the VOB Dolby Surround files in
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> VIDEO_TS folder, not the AOB files in the AUDIO_TS folder. It
> >>>>> seems
> >>>>>>>>>> that Twonky does not support AOB streaming.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to stream the AOB files? Or is it standard
> >>>>> practice to
> >>>>>>>>>> convert the files to Flac and stream them as Flac? I would
> >>> love
> >>>>> to be
> >>>>>>>>>> able to stream the AOB's if possible.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
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