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Wednesday, August 3, 2011

[SurroundSound] Re: Can you stream DVD-A Audio Object Files with a DLNA server?

I've been following the Oppo 93 thread on AVSForum from the beginning
and I don't think anyone has yet found a NAS that will work as
attached storage to the Oppo and also connect to a network for copying
files. If there is one, it would make a lot of Oppo owners very happy
because we're all looking for a solution to simplify the file copying.
If you find one that works, you should definitely post this on
AVSForum.

I tried connecting my WD network drive to the Oppo because it has a
second USB port for daisy-chaining another hard drive thinking maybe I
could accomplish this but the Oppo didn't recognize it.

With a multi-bay enclosure, it will connect to the Oppo through a
single USB or eSata connection and it's my understanding that the Oppo
will "see" the different drives in the enclosure. Again, some multi-
bay enclosures have worked and others have had problems where the Oppo
will only see one of the drives.


On Aug 3, 8:27 pm, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for describing your setup - again, very helpful!
>
> So how exactly does a multi-bay enclosure work with the Oppo? Does it
> connect to a single port? Let's say you have multiple 2TB drives in
> one enclosure. Will the Oppo recognize all the drives at the same
> time?
>
> On Aug 3, 12:58 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I know there are multi-bay enclosures that will work with Oppo but
> > there are reports that some brands won't work. One that has been
> > confirmed to work is the Hotway probox 4-bay enclosure. I'm looking to
> > add a multi-bay enclosure soon as I'm filling up the two 2TB HDD I'm
> > currently using. I have to manually switch the hard drives on the Oppo
> > which is not the best solution.
>
> > My current setup consists of a 2TB WD network drive that contains all
> > my FLAC files (stereo and multichannel). I use this to stream to the
> > Oppo via Twonky, and I can also stream these to a PS3 in another room
> > using PS3 Media Server which transcodes the FLAC files.
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> > I have two  2TB Seagate GoFlex drives that are attached to the Oppo
> > (but not at the same time), one of which contains all of my DVD-A and
> > DVD-V ISO's. The second 2TB drive contains my Blu-ray ISO's which are
> > mostly concert videos and a few movie Blu-rays.  As I rip more movie
> > Blu-rays, this 2TB drive will fill up fast. That's why I need at least
> > a 4-bay or maybe larger enclosure.
>
> > These drives are all backups to the two 3TB drives on my pc. I use a
> > synch program (Synchronize It) to basically clone these drives with
> > the pc drives containing my digitial media. Again, not the most
> > elegant solution but it has been cobbled together over time.
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> > On Aug 3, 11:39 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I would assume you can connect multiple drives as I have a multiple drive
> > > bay and it is filled with more than one HDD.  I haven't tried it with the
> > > bays filled but why not?  Yes you are going to have problems if you transfer
> > > to an NTFS volume with a Mac unless you use a bootcamp thing.  For some
> > > reason the journaling system in the OS makes these shadow copies all over
> > > the place.  These are visible to the Oppo and you have to scroll thru these
> > > normally hidden files to get to the actual files that play.  Twice the work!
> > >  They cannot be deleted by normal means.  Use windows in bootcamp.  And no
> > > matter how you have your drives attached to the NAS the Oppo won't see it
> > > the same way.  You can't play iso's over the network.  Nobody likes it.  But
> > > that's as they say the way it is.
> > > I use a Drobo.  They are slow as molasses but they do a great job of backing
> > > up your data in their weird RAID thing.  I even had 2 drives out of 4 out at
> > > the same time and it merely asked me to put one back in and the data was
> > > intact.  Pretty kewl.  Makes up for the fact that it is SLOW.  You can still
> > > stream just about anything no prob.  I find it an elegant solution sorta a
> > > la apple.  Plug it in, just works.  This also eliminates the headaches of
> > > backing up your external drives which isn't real ez to do.
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> > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:22 PM, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > > Again, thanks for your input here. This is extremely helpful.
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> > > > Just curious - what drive types/drive capacities are you using?
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> > > > And how do you backup your data?
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> > > > My thought would be to get a 4-bay NAS drive for the FLAC-drive, using
> > > > RAID 5 for backup. But backing up the Oppo drive might require a
> > > > duplicate drive?
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> > > > On Aug 2, 9:23 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I end up keeping both the FLAC's and the ISO. The FLAC's stay on my
> > > > > network drive for streaming purposes, and the ISO's reside on the hard
> > > > > drive attached to the Oppo. I like the flexibility of playing FLAC's
> > > > > using Twonky, especially the ability to easily select tracks by genre,
> > > > > artist, etc. or set up playlists. Also, one of the recent firmware
> > > > > revisions made selecting and retrieving FLAC files via Twonky very
> > > > > fast compared to the original firmware in the Oppo.  The ISO is nice
> > > > > to have if you want to burn a backup copy to a disc or access the
> > > > > other material such as videos, etc. It requires more hard drive space
> > > > > to keep both the ISO and FLAC files, but each serves it's purpose.
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> > > > > Be aware that there have been reports of some multi-bay enclosures not
> > > > > working with the Oppo. The Oppo also does not currently support hard
> > > > > drives larger than 2TB's. I have been in contact with Oppo and they
> > > > > are supposed to be investigating this and hopefully there will be a
> > > > > firmware update to support 3TB and larger hard drives in the future.
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> > > > > On Aug 1, 9:52 pm, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > Thanks for the reply. BTW I see you are on The Hub, I am now a member
> > > > > > there.
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> > > > > > So since the Oppo doesn't support AOB's then that rules out the idea
> > > > > > of AOB streaming. Not a bad thing actually, since I realize that there
> > > > > > are many options that I am sorting through in order to figure out how
> > > > > > best to organize and play material. Knowing that the Oppo plays iso's
> > > > > > on attached storage might help me figure things out. But it seems that
> > > > > > Flac is really the most flexible file type - it can be streamed
> > > > > > easily, can hold multichannel and hi res media, and it doesn't take up
> > > > > > tons of storage.
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> > > > > > So is the idea of keeping a "complete" Flac collection (ALL of my
> > > > > > audio, both hi res/multichannel and stereo CD audio) a good one? If
> > > > > > so, I guess I will be keeping multiple file types of the same album -
> > > > > > I want the iso's for backup/disc burning and the flacs for streaming/
> > > > > > playback. Or perhaps once I burn the DVD-A disc I can keep this as my
> > > > > > backup, have the flac for playback, and in theory I wouldn't need the
> > > > > > iso anymore...some food for thought.
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> > > > > > I believe a 4-bay NAS device is next on my list.
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> > > > > > On Aug 1, 5:28 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > I use Twonky to stream to my Oppo 93. Unfortunately, the Oppo
> > > > supports
> > > > > > > the VOB container format, but not AOB.  I have FLAC files ripped from
> > > > > > > most of my DVD-A's so they can be streamed via Twonky. No problem
> > > > > > > streaming multichannel or stereo FLAC files ripped from DVD-A's.
> > > > > > > However, since Oppo began supporting ISO's from attached storage, I
> > > > > > > now play my DVD-A ISO's on the Oppo from an attached hard drive. It's
> > > > > > > nice to have full menu control and access to any videos and the
> > > > hi-rez
> > > > > > > stereo tracks from the ISO's.  The hard drive attached to the Oppo
> > > > > > > also serves as a back-up to the ISO's on my PC hard drive.  The only
> > > > > > > hassle is disconnecting the attached hard drive and lugging it the PC
> > > > > > > to synch/add files. There is currently no way to stream ISO's via
> > > > > > > DLNA, supposedly because the DLNA protocol doesn't support it.
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> > > > > > > On Aug 1, 1:27 am, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I have a bunch of DVD-A discs stored as .iso files. I mount them on
> > > > my
> > > > > > > > desktop (Mac), and  I would like to stream the hi res DVD-A files
> > > > > > > > (Audio Object Files, or AOB's) to my Oppo BDP-93. Currently I am
> > > > using
> > > > > > > > Twonky, and I can only stream the VOB Dolby Surround files in the
> > > > > > > > VIDEO_TS folder, not the AOB files in the AUDIO_TS folder. It seems
> > > > > > > > that Twonky does not support AOB streaming.
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> > > > > > > > Is it possible to stream the AOB files? Or is it standard practice
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > convert the files to Flac and stream them as Flac? I would love to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > able to stream the AOB's if possible.
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!
>
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