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Tuesday, December 21, 2010

[SurroundSound] Re: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers "Damn The Torpedoes" Deluxe Edition on Blu-ray

I never thought to look for one with analogue outs, as I was going to
pair it with an Oppo DVD-A, For that matter if Bluray does take off
with Hirez surround releases (I'm still skeptical that surround will
get popular, as that requires skilled remastering instead of just re-
releasing), AVR prices aren't too bad either. Especially here near
Toronto where Kijiji means deals galore!!

On Dec 21, 7:16 pm, Dale <dale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was lucky enough to get a then, soon to be discontinued Sony BDP-
> S300 around 3 years ago for a great price. It has 5.1 analog outputs
> which were perfect for my non-HDMI Denon home theatre receiver.
>
> Blu-ray player prices are really affordable now (in Canada anyways).
> I'm not sure how many models have analog outputs now-a-days, for those
> with older receivers. I know that the models with analog outputs used
> to be more expensive. Could be that there aren't many available now
> because all new Home theatres come with the proper HDMI audio
> standard.
>
> I think Blu-ray Audio discs could be more successful than SACD or DVD-
> Audio because you had to get a special player for those, whereas Blu-
> ray is already undergoing wider adoption because of HD video.
>
> On Dec 21, 3:45 pm, Quadstone <darmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Of course, all that being said, I ordered a copy and thanks to Dale
> > for the heads up, as I hadn't heard about it.
> > I hope every new surround music release in any format (except 8-track)
> > gets announced here.
>
> > On Dec 21, 6:34 pm, Quadstone <darmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The issue I'm wrestling with is not so much that a Blueray player is
> > > required (I recently got one), but that neither of my Harman Kardon
> > > AVR's has HDMI inputs or BD decoders. so what will I get if I get this
> > > Tom Petty disc? DTS or Dolby Digital thru the optical patch at best if
> > > even that. So an AVR upgrade in addition to a player is necessary.
> > > What's worse for me, is the superior surround system (in terms of
> > > speakers) is not the one with the TV and Bluray player..so i'd have to
> > > get another Bluray player and upgrade a second AVR to play a Blueray
> > > disc upstairs and downstairs...or invest in a bluray burner to make a
> > > DVD-A clone for the second system.....I figure by the time I'm done
> > > all that upgrading, Blueray will be passe and a new superior format
> > > called Beta tape will be established......then a trip to my attic will
> > > be all that's required to upgrade......<sigh>
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> > > On Dec 21, 5:13 pm, ArnoldLayne <arnoldlayn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I fully understand if someone that has for example a player that only
> > > > handles SACD/DVD-A prefers to spend his or her money on supporting
> > > > releases in those formats. So there's clearly a dilema, stick to the
> > > > grace period or help out the brothers and sisters with limited format
> > > > compatibility in their gears.
>
> > > > Even though it was conceived for movies, blu-ray is actually a
> > > > fantastic surround format and has a great mass market potential. Its
> > > > disadvantages are more in terms of the need to invest, among consumers
> > > > as well as studios and record companies.
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> > > > On 21 dic, 22:43, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > there is another point - there are three available formats that already
> > > > > exist and most users could support - SACD, DVD-A and flac download -
> > > > > therefore why release on a format never, ever designed for audio on its own;
> > > > > BD's first design was fir HD Video and surround sound but not audio.
>
> > > > >   _____  
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> > > > > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Stephen Disney
> > > > > Sent: 21 December 2010 18:20
> > > > > To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers "Damn The
> > > > > Torpedoes" Deluxe Edition on Blu-ray
>
> > > > > P.S.  Owning the bluray without the player also, if nothing else,
> > > > > legitimizes your having a backup copy.
> > > > > S
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> > > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > That's what I was afraid of.  Its one thing to opt out of a dead format, but
> > > > > blu isn't going anywhere.  It wasn't really an issue for us quad collectors
> > > > > as we owned copies of the vinyls usually, or we were dealing in out of print
> > > > > material and rare material.  To suggest that choosing not to upgrade to a
> > > > > very widespread current format is a valid reason to get a brand new release
> > > > > for free is ludicrous.  Are we now just a den of pirates?
> > > > > S
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> > > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:44 AM, elshagon <elsha...@msn.com> wrote:
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> > > > > "So that is an excuse for not buying a new release?"
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> > > > > Why would someone buy a new release on a format they don't own a
> > > > > player for?  What would one do with a bluray disc without a player,
> > > > > admire it's shiny surface?   I'm all for supporting new releases and
> > > > > having people wait for their release, but I'm not about to tell
> > > > > someone they should buy a bluray they can't play just to support the
> > > > > cause.
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> > > > > On Dec 21, 12:14 am, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > So that is an excuse for not buying a new release?  I thought we were anti
> > > > > > pirating of new releases.  I understand the need for transcoding services,
> > > > > > but have we sunk to the levels of plain theft?
>
> > > > > > That said I'm sure we all have the best of intentions at heart... just
> > > > > > putting it out there...
> > > > > > S
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> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:36 AM, polmuaddib
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> > > > > <vladimirmalu...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > > > > > What do you mean, Lokkerman?
> > > > > > > You don't like the format, or...?
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> > > > > > > On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately some of us have opted not to get Bu-Ray
>
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > > > surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>
> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of ArnoldLayne
> > > > > > > > Sent: 20 December 2010 20:36
> > > > > > > > To: SurroundSound
> > > > > > > > Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers "Damn The
> > > > > > > > Torpedoes" Deluxe Edition on Blu-ray
>
> > > > > > > > Those who canm support this surround release. It seems to be availble
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > 8,95 at Amazon UK. The more copies we buy, the greater the chance that
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > let Tom Petty edit more of his back-catalog in surround.  ;)
>
> > > > > > > > On 20 dic, 21:21, Paul Garfunkel <paulgarfun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Still dont have Bluray ( I have Laser Disc and 8mm video) Someone
> > > > > > > > > please make a dvd-a version for the hub
>
> > > > > > > > > On 12/20/10, realafrica <paul.gam...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > Very good news.
> > > > > > > > > > But I'm still struggling with authoring the upmix of the recent
> > > > > > > > > > stereo Hi-Res release to DVD-A!!
> > > > > > > > > > I guess I might as well wait for this Blu 5.1 version to be
> > > > > > > > > > available to Hubbers
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> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 6:43 pm, Dale <dale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> Hello all. I wanted to make sure that everyone knows about the
> > > > > > > > > >> November 9th release of this Audio-only Blu-ray disc. I bought
> > > > > mine
> > > > > > > > > >> on ebay and just received it. I haven't listened to it yet.
>
> > > > > > > > > >> It has a new 5.1 mix in both 24bit 96khz DTS-HD and PCM, as well
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > >> stereo. There are also bonus tracks.
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> > > > > > > > > >> I hope to see more of these Audio-only Blu-rays!
>
> > > > > > > > > >> Dale
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