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Tuesday, December 21, 2010

[SurroundSound] Re: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers "Damn The Torpedoes" Deluxe Edition on Blu-ray

I was lucky enough to get a then, soon to be discontinued Sony BDP-
S300 around 3 years ago for a great price. It has 5.1 analog outputs
which were perfect for my non-HDMI Denon home theatre receiver.

Blu-ray player prices are really affordable now (in Canada anyways).
I'm not sure how many models have analog outputs now-a-days, for those
with older receivers. I know that the models with analog outputs used
to be more expensive. Could be that there aren't many available now
because all new Home theatres come with the proper HDMI audio
standard.

I think Blu-ray Audio discs could be more successful than SACD or DVD-
Audio because you had to get a special player for those, whereas Blu-
ray is already undergoing wider adoption because of HD video.

On Dec 21, 3:45 pm, Quadstone <darmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course, all that being said, I ordered a copy and thanks to Dale
> for the heads up, as I hadn't heard about it.
> I hope every new surround music release in any format (except 8-track)
> gets announced here.
>
> On Dec 21, 6:34 pm, Quadstone <darmac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The issue I'm wrestling with is not so much that a Blueray player is
> > required (I recently got one), but that neither of my Harman Kardon
> > AVR's has HDMI inputs or BD decoders. so what will I get if I get this
> > Tom Petty disc? DTS or Dolby Digital thru the optical patch at best if
> > even that. So an AVR upgrade in addition to a player is necessary.
> > What's worse for me, is the superior surround system (in terms of
> > speakers) is not the one with the TV and Bluray player..so i'd have to
> > get another Bluray player and upgrade a second AVR to play a Blueray
> > disc upstairs and downstairs...or invest in a bluray burner to make a
> > DVD-A clone for the second system.....I figure by the time I'm done
> > all that upgrading, Blueray will be passe and a new superior format
> > called Beta tape will be established......then a trip to my attic will
> > be all that's required to upgrade......<sigh>
>
> > On Dec 21, 5:13 pm, ArnoldLayne <arnoldlayn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I fully understand if someone that has for example a player that only
> > > handles SACD/DVD-A prefers to spend his or her money on supporting
> > > releases in those formats. So there's clearly a dilema, stick to the
> > > grace period or help out the brothers and sisters with limited format
> > > compatibility in their gears.
>
> > > Even though it was conceived for movies, blu-ray is actually a
> > > fantastic surround format and has a great mass market potential. Its
> > > disadvantages are more in terms of the need to invest, among consumers
> > > as well as studios and record companies.
>
> > > On 21 dic, 22:43, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > there is another point - there are three available formats that already
> > > > exist and most users could support - SACD, DVD-A and flac download -
> > > > therefore why release on a format never, ever designed for audio on its own;
> > > > BD's first design was fir HD Video and surround sound but not audio.
>
> > > >   _____  
>
> > > > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of Stephen Disney
> > > > Sent: 21 December 2010 18:20
> > > > To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers "Damn The
> > > > Torpedoes" Deluxe Edition on Blu-ray
>
> > > > P.S.  Owning the bluray without the player also, if nothing else,
> > > > legitimizes your having a backup copy.
> > > > S
>
> > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > That's what I was afraid of.  Its one thing to opt out of a dead format, but
> > > > blu isn't going anywhere.  It wasn't really an issue for us quad collectors
> > > > as we owned copies of the vinyls usually, or we were dealing in out of print
> > > > material and rare material.  To suggest that choosing not to upgrade to a
> > > > very widespread current format is a valid reason to get a brand new release
> > > > for free is ludicrous.  Are we now just a den of pirates?
> > > > S
>
> > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:44 AM, elshagon <elsha...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "So that is an excuse for not buying a new release?"
>
> > > > Why would someone buy a new release on a format they don't own a
> > > > player for?  What would one do with a bluray disc without a player,
> > > > admire it's shiny surface?   I'm all for supporting new releases and
> > > > having people wait for their release, but I'm not about to tell
> > > > someone they should buy a bluray they can't play just to support the
> > > > cause.
>
> > > > On Dec 21, 12:14 am, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > So that is an excuse for not buying a new release?  I thought we were anti
> > > > > pirating of new releases.  I understand the need for transcoding services,
> > > > > but have we sunk to the levels of plain theft?
>
> > > > > That said I'm sure we all have the best of intentions at heart... just
> > > > > putting it out there...
> > > > > S
>
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:36 AM, polmuaddib
>
> > > > <vladimirmalu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > What do you mean, Lokkerman?
> > > > > > You don't like the format, or...?
>
> > > > > > On Dec 20, 10:25 pm, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Unfortunately some of us have opted not to get Bu-Ray
>
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > > surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>
> > > > > > > On Behalf Of ArnoldLayne
> > > > > > > Sent: 20 December 2010 20:36
> > > > > > > To: SurroundSound
> > > > > > > Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers "Damn The
> > > > > > > Torpedoes" Deluxe Edition on Blu-ray
>
> > > > > > > Those who canm support this surround release. It seems to be availble
> > > > for
> > > > > > > 8,95 at Amazon UK. The more copies we buy, the greater the chance that
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > let Tom Petty edit more of his back-catalog in surround.  ;)
>
> > > > > > > On 20 dic, 21:21, Paul Garfunkel <paulgarfun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Still dont have Bluray ( I have Laser Disc and 8mm video) Someone
> > > > > > > > please make a dvd-a version for the hub
>
> > > > > > > > On 12/20/10, realafrica <paul.gam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Very good news.
> > > > > > > > > But I'm still struggling with authoring the upmix of the recent
> > > > > > > > > stereo Hi-Res release to DVD-A!!
> > > > > > > > > I guess I might as well wait for this Blu 5.1 version to be
> > > > > > > > > available to Hubbers
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 6:43 pm, Dale <dale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> Hello all. I wanted to make sure that everyone knows about the
> > > > > > > > >> November 9th release of this Audio-only Blu-ray disc. I bought
> > > > mine
> > > > > > > > >> on ebay and just received it. I haven't listened to it yet.
>
> > > > > > > > >> It has a new 5.1 mix in both 24bit 96khz DTS-HD and PCM, as well
> > > > as
> > > > > > > > >> stereo. There are also bonus tracks.
>
> > > > > > > > >> I hope to see more of these Audio-only Blu-rays!
>
> > > > > > > > >> Dale
>
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