suited for remix (in the same way that the bounced down to 4 track 16 track
Sgt Pepper "locks in" the sound of 4 tracks to one). Remixing the rock band
tracks would, in fact, be nothing more than an upmix (filtering IS how
upmixes are created, after all.). Again, I couldn't be more happy that
these files exist to play with; I just don't see them as worthy of remixing.
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From: "Paul Garfunkel" <paulgarfunkel@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:26 PM
To: <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: alert Beatles mogg files on the noid
> That is just short of an upmix. The Columbia jazz titles Brubeck Time
> Out and Miles Davis kind of blue were 3 track masters and the sacd
> only had 3 tracks to preserve the true mix, but that was not the
> comment. I was merely making the point that the early Beatles masters
> do not exist in multi track formats and the first 4 are 2 track mono.
> The rockband track are hi tech filtering of stereo and 4 track
> masters. Based on the articles on the subject I don't believe they
> even had 4 track master and that all mogg's were software created off
> material from the new hirez Giles Martin sessions.
>
> Either way nothing before 67 is more then 4 tracks.
>
> Now what they came up with is nothing to sneeze at and the previous
> claim that these mogg files are not good enough to re mix has
> obviously not listened to these files and based their comments on the
> 7 disc speration box set and not the glorious files just uncovered.
>
> "These mogg files are the best thing to ever happen to the at home re
> mixer"
>
>
> On 9/26/10, Lokkerman <phil.steeples@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes but you can use the 4 track "bounces" to make multi tracks, an
>> example
>> of this is the Pet Sounds DVD-A, these were compiled from multiple
>> sources
>> including 3 track recordings.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Paul Garfunkel
>> <paulgarfunkel@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> 4 track is not multi track. Multi is deticated tracks to each
>>> componant. 16, 24 or 32 track is what I would call multi track.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/26/10, Gino Vacca <ginovacca@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> > Not true. Everything after Sgt Pepper was record on multi track. Sgt
>>> > Pepper originally was mixed down to a four track from 4 four track
>>> > recordings, then mixed down to stereo from there. When Yellow
>>> > submarine
>>> > (the movie) was re-released, they took the 16 tracks from the 4
>>> > "master
>>> > tapes", and digitally synced them, thus creating a sixteen track
>>> > master
>>> to
>>> > re-mix into stereo - or, dare I say, surround - Wait. The movie is 5.1
>>> > (listen to the cd that accompanied the re-release of the movie - it's
>>> > completely different than the original).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Paul Garfunkel
>>> > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:36 AM
>>> > To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: alert Beatles mogg files on the noid
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > No they are not actual multi tracks, since aside from abbey road more
>>> then 4
>>> > tracks does not excist.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Gino Vacca <ginovacca@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Sadly, these are not the actual multi track recordings, merely, Rock
>>> Band
>>> > 5.1 divisions. Not good for remixing, but a lot of fun to play with!
>>> I've
>>> > tried for some time to convince anyone that a "game" based on original
>>> multi
>>> > track recordings would be unbelievable. Who wouldn't enjoy messing
>>> about
>>> > with, say DSOTM, or the 16 tracks of Sgt. Pepper (I know the Beatles
>>> > used
>>> 4
>>> > tracks for SP. Four of them...).
>>> >
>>> > --------------------------------------------------
>>> > From: "LennonCobain" <sgt_pepper_forever@yahoo.com>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:02 PM
>>> > To: "SurroundSound" <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
>>> > Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: alert Beatles mogg files on the noid
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I would very much enjoy listening to some 5.1 "remixes" created by
>>> the
>>> > talented individuals who post here.
>>> >
>>> > On Sep 21, 9:14 pm, Paul Garfunkel <paulgarfun...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > 67 tracks in all. Check it out!
>>> >
>>> >
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