http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_years_remixed_yellow/
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From: "Gino Vacca" <ginovacca@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:52 PM
To: <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: alert Beatles mogg files on the noid
> Erm, no. I have listened and played with the new files. They are not
> suited for remix (in the same way that the bounced down to 4 track 16
> track Sgt Pepper "locks in" the sound of 4 tracks to one). Remixing the
> rock band tracks would, in fact, be nothing more than an upmix (filtering
> IS how upmixes are created, after all.). Again, I couldn't be more happy
> that these files exist to play with; I just don't see them as worthy of
> remixing.
>
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> From: "Paul Garfunkel" <paulgarfunkel@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:26 PM
> To: <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: alert Beatles mogg files on the noid
>
>> That is just short of an upmix. The Columbia jazz titles Brubeck Time
>> Out and Miles Davis kind of blue were 3 track masters and the sacd
>> only had 3 tracks to preserve the true mix, but that was not the
>> comment. I was merely making the point that the early Beatles masters
>> do not exist in multi track formats and the first 4 are 2 track mono.
>> The rockband track are hi tech filtering of stereo and 4 track
>> masters. Based on the articles on the subject I don't believe they
>> even had 4 track master and that all mogg's were software created off
>> material from the new hirez Giles Martin sessions.
>>
>> Either way nothing before 67 is more then 4 tracks.
>>
>> Now what they came up with is nothing to sneeze at and the previous
>> claim that these mogg files are not good enough to re mix has
>> obviously not listened to these files and based their comments on the
>> 7 disc speration box set and not the glorious files just uncovered.
>>
>> "These mogg files are the best thing to ever happen to the at home re
>> mixer"
>>
>>
>> On 9/26/10, Lokkerman <phil.steeples@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes but you can use the 4 track "bounces" to make multi tracks, an
>>> example
>>> of this is the Pet Sounds DVD-A, these were compiled from multiple
>>> sources
>>> including 3 track recordings.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Paul Garfunkel
>>> <paulgarfunkel@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> 4 track is not multi track. Multi is deticated tracks to each
>>>> componant. 16, 24 or 32 track is what I would call multi track.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/26/10, Gino Vacca <ginovacca@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > Not true. Everything after Sgt Pepper was record on multi track.
>>>> > Sgt
>>>> > Pepper originally was mixed down to a four track from 4 four track
>>>> > recordings, then mixed down to stereo from there. When Yellow
>>>> > submarine
>>>> > (the movie) was re-released, they took the 16 tracks from the 4
>>>> > "master
>>>> > tapes", and digitally synced them, thus creating a sixteen track
>>>> > master
>>>> to
>>>> > re-mix into stereo - or, dare I say, surround - Wait. The movie is
>>>> > 5.1
>>>> > (listen to the cd that accompanied the re-release of the movie - it's
>>>> > completely different than the original).
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Paul Garfunkel
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:36 AM
>>>> > To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: alert Beatles mogg files on the noid
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > No they are not actual multi tracks, since aside from abbey road more
>>>> then 4
>>>> > tracks does not excist.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Gino Vacca <ginovacca@comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Sadly, these are not the actual multi track recordings, merely,
>>>> > Rock
>>>> Band
>>>> > 5.1 divisions. Not good for remixing, but a lot of fun to play with!
>>>> I've
>>>> > tried for some time to convince anyone that a "game" based on
>>>> > original
>>>> multi
>>>> > track recordings would be unbelievable. Who wouldn't enjoy messing
>>>> about
>>>> > with, say DSOTM, or the 16 tracks of Sgt. Pepper (I know the Beatles
>>>> > used
>>>> 4
>>>> > tracks for SP. Four of them...).
>>>> >
>>>> > --------------------------------------------------
>>>> > From: "LennonCobain" <sgt_pepper_forever@yahoo.com>
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 7:02 PM
>>>> > To: "SurroundSound" <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
>>>> > Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: alert Beatles mogg files on the noid
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I would very much enjoy listening to some 5.1 "remixes" created
>>>> > by
>>>> the
>>>> > talented individuals who post here.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sep 21, 9:14 pm, Paul Garfunkel <paulgarfun...@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > 67 tracks in all. Check it out!
>>>> >
>>>> >
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