behind analog. That aside anyone who thinks digital files a better on
sd or disc is dilutional. Digital is digital the only thing to discuss
is file format as far as quality. Now long term storage is another
matter. Dvd is more stable then sd and can take more use the a sd card
will (try getting either wet). Contact points wear fast and a disc has
none,
On 8/27/10, pj-mckay <johnmckay@btinternet.com> wrote:
> No you're wrong on most counts and I won't take offence at such
> trivial comments, though I probably should. The initial question
> relates to car audio; which has to beconvenient and safe to use.
>
> For the record, I have a two year old Honda CRV with Alpine audio, and
> my Ford Focus which is now three years old. And for the record I play
> both DVD-A and SACD, but personally prefer to play DTS/Flac versions
> over my network at home, but with two kids running around I compromise
> for convenience. What is tedious about having to turn on more gadgets
> than is required? I am talking about convenience and quality, and
> possibly some compromise for the car. You, sadly, are reacting like
> HiFi purists of the 80s who could hear the sonic difference when they
> changed the power plug, or who can clearly hear the difference when
> they now use gold plated optical leads (yes I know they wouldn't).
> How can you possibly say that a memory card can't come close to the hi-
> res qualities of a spinning plastic disc? The SD card is the medium
> and has no 'tonal' qualities to add or remove; just like the plastic
> thing, it simply holds files. That's an absurd thing to say! Not
> that slagging off an ipod is much better.
>
> I'm not saying you can't play your dvd-a in your car. I'm saying I
> have no desire for a spinning disc, and that the future has to be file
> based, and probably memory card based. What I need in a car is
> definitely not the same as what I want at home. I want a balance
> between cost and quality, and I'm certainly not going to bother about
> spacial awareness differences as I spend an hour doing 70mph plus on
> the motorway (I'm supposed to be concentrating on the road). I want
> to play ripped versions of my SACD, DVD-A in the car, and I take
> advantage of the kind folk with the gear, time, and effort who extract
> sacd for the likes of me.
>
> Lastly... Whilst I havn't posted here before yesterday, I have been
> subscribed to the group for a long, long time and have taken note of
> some threads. Some progressive, some lame but everyone has some good
> points to learn from. I've even learned from this thread, and have
> added it to my list of things to do. If you feel the group ONLY has
> room for true audiopiles then please just say so and I'll look for
> another forum to monitor. Remember this thread was about car
> audio...... and oppinion. Mine is still for surround based on
> memory cards.
>
> On Aug 26, 5:43 am, "tim gordon" <tjg...@bmts.com> wrote:
>> No offence, but you are obviously not attached to this "surround-sound"
>> group for sustaining quad/surround, and most definitely, not hi-rez
>> material. Your statement of "hoping that dvd-audio would just go away" is
>> totally ludicrous!! This format, does have it's drawbacks, and having to
>> exert yourself to turning on one more medium, television, to enjoy it's
>> sonic values must seem tedious. But your statement tells me you probably
>> haven't actually explored this format. If you had, you would hear it's
>> value. Dvd-Audio, to my ears, has a much warmer sound and better
>> seperation,
>> than most SACD's.
>> On a different note, memory cards for car audio will never come close
>> to
>> the sonics of hi-rez material. They are no different than the convenience
>> of
>> an i-pod. Mass produced compression with very little sound value.If you
>> have
>> been using a Blaupunkt DAB USB/SD, for years, you are probably driving a
>> clattering, diesel powered VW, with 1990"s technology and sound dampening.
>> I
>> just got rid of a 1991 Jetta, terrible noisey thing that it was. I now
>> drive
>> a 2 year old North American product, with DVD-A onboard and have never had
>> a
>> better sounding car stereo in the 30 plus years that I have been driving.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "pj-mckay" <johnmc...@btinternet.com>
>> To: "SurroundSound" <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 3:31 PM
>> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: hi-res car audio
>>
>> I've not looked into this but personally I don't use CDs any more,
>> apart from to RIP to my WHS and Popcorn c-200 for everyone to access.
>> I've been using a Blaupunkt DAB USB/SD card receiver in the car for
>> years. Admittedly I'm reading MP3s at 256 and higher but with traffic
>> noise I'm happy with that.
>>
>> Regards your flac and DVD audio I would hope that everyone gets away
>> from spinning discs and simply uses memory cards in future (personally
>> I hope DVD Audio fades away too). DVD audio is a pain, SACD is just
>> so much more friendly and manageable from the player without needing
>> the TV on, and I've been downloading the odd rip. My nirvanna will be
>> a system that reads SD/USB, decodes flac/dts/mp3 and pumps it out
>> niceley.
>>
>> No spinning discs, and NO creating special DVDs. Rip or download(I'm
>> sure many of us download a copy of what we have to save the effort)
>> and copy to SD quickly, and easily. Memory cards are the future for
>> car audio... there is no doubt (in my mind anyway :-) ).
>>
>> On Aug 24, 10:45 pm, beastie29a <robertcontre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I drive an Acura with the Panasonic ELS audio system. It's the best
>> > sounding audio I've heard in my car and just enjoy listening to music
>> > so much more. It has a DVD-audio player and finding titles is a pain
>> > as I'm sure everyone knows. So I'm in the process of creating my own
>> > content from blu-ray concert discs which have been wonderful to hear
>> > in surround while driving. My question is, what's next for hi-res
>> > audio? Eventually I guess there will be blu-ray players in cars. I
>> > want to be prepared for the next wave, where my media can be easily
>> > converted to the next format. I keep most of my audio files in multi-
>> > channel FLAC format on my PC now so I assume I'm good.
>>
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