Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Bit Rate Resolution, Sampling Rate, Upsample, and Lossless vs. Lossy ....

I could be wrong... but I assume his point is that saying statistically that 128k sounds worse than lossless is about as obvious as saying that a conversion of redbook into any format of choice will still sound no better than redbook.
S

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Steven Sullivan <ssully@panix.com> wrote:

> This is proof positive that Redbook CD can be converted to anything you
> please and still will never sound any better than it does in it's native
> state.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but:  lossy codecs aren't
designed or intended to subjectively improve sound -- they are designed to
at best preserve it with as few audible artifacts as possible, while
reducing the file size. This is just as true for hi rez source as it is
for Redbook source. So why single out Redbook?

> I would like to see someone perform the same test recording that same song
> (We Built This City) from a 1st pressing vinyl at 96/24 or there abouts
> and
> use the same MP3 encoding and then see if anyone can tell a difference.
> Bet
> they can :)

But this doesn't speak to the idea of a conversion sounding *better* than
its source, which is what you seemed to be getting at up there.


(If what you're getting at is that that vinyl sources captured at high
rates and bit depths are harder to lossy compress than CD sources -- why
do you believe that to be the case?)

>
>
> On Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:08:28 PM UTC-5, zoop wrote:
>
>> > Interesting mp3 listening test results here
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/06/concluding-the-great-mp3-bitrate-experiment.html
>> >
>> >
>> > some discussion of them here:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=52423ce8ae62ebae08da0b76d7c668e6&showtopic=95754
>>
>>
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