If I understand your question correctly, the Oppo can output DSD via HDMI, and as long as it's sent to an AVR capable of direct DSD to analog, it can be converted to analog without conversion to PCM first. However, most (maybe all?) AVR's that can do the direct DSD to analog conversion can't apply any processing, room correction, tone controls, etc. or it will convert to PCM first.
I prefer DSD to analog for stereo SACD's where room correction isn't as critical, but I like to apply my AVR's bass management and room correction for MCH, so it is converted to PCM first for MCH SACD's.
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:49:13 PM UTC-4, Blee...@yahoo.com wrote:
I have heard that some AVRs are able to do a HT bypass or something along those lines whereby one could use a stereo DAC to transport the L and R channels while the AVR handles the C, L and R surrounds. Obviously with a pure DSD DAC it seems the possibility exists to output pure DSD to the stereo speakers while offloading PCM to the extra speakers. It seems to my mind I've read this is possible. I am wondering how that is accomplished. What would be splitting the signals? Would it have to be like a software based program that would send DSD to the L and R since it would be recognized as a legitimate DSD source thru usb, then send the remaining channels to the AVR for PCM? Or would the AVR somehow be managing this? Or even the Oppo if one were being used. DSD to analog isn't technically pure DSD is it? I was under the impression that it was converted to PCM for analog output.--
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM, scolumbo <sacolumbo@gmail.com> wrote:This is exactly what I do with my Oppo. DSD direct to analog through my Denon for stereo. For MCH, convert DSD to PCM so I can apply room correction. I wish there was an affordable soundcard DAC that could do the same.
On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:41:50 AM UTC-4, Blee...@yahoo.com wrote:Ah so even if you had a DAC that was DSD capable there's really no way to do like a hybrid sorta setup is there? Like 2 channels of pure DSD for the stereo speakers and off load the rest as pcm thru an AVR? I have nearly as many 2 channel SACDs as I have MC so that might be a good compromise if it could be done. Thanks for the info.--
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:40 AM, realafrica <paul.gambia@gmail.com> wrote:In thesearch for true DSD playback, I don't think it is really worth
persuing such things as the Kingrex, if all it does is convert DSD to
PCM at high resolutions. Foobar could be made to do the same for free!
and
YES! the AVR would also have to have DAC chips capable of the Kingex's
32/384 resolution.
Just as any AVR used in conjunction with a DSD capable soundcard would
have to have true DSD DACs and not be converting DSD from the DSD
soundcard to PCM before outputting it to the speakers.
On Jun 11, 11:31 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> theres also the kingrex dac which is a digital to digital converter (dont
> ask me)...it claims some kind of DSD capability but it really is just
> converting to 32/384 if I understand what it does correctly. It is
> apparently a pretty good alternative to the Mytek thing although it is NOT
> DSD. It's under 500 bucks and it's getting some awesome reviews for such a
> cheap unit comparatively. Is there some way to combine something like that
> with an AVR to do multichannel or would the AVR have to have that specific
> capability built into it?
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> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:31 PM, realafrica <paul.gam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > @ Scolumbo
> > No don't give up your Oppo , but don't neglect the HTPC either. :lol:
> > As much as you can afford to do, upgrade the HTPC so it is as capable
> > as the Oppo.
> > Maybe you need to invest in a better Mch soundcard?
> > You didn't mention which one is in your HTPC, but a Xonar DS 2 would
> > be a good starting point.
>
> > @ August Bleed
> > Yes true DSD playback is still difficult and the only solutions around
> > currently are all silly money, like the Mytek you mentioned.
> > Merging Technologies told me they could sort me out for around
> > £10,000, but they don't really have a 'consumer' solution for DSD.
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> > On Jun 11, 9:32 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Snarky, now that's the right word! ;-)
>
> > > Actually, I have never used JRMC, although I know it's highly thought of
> > by
> > > those who use it. I have relied instead on Foobar, MediaMonkey, and
> > > PowerDVD for most of my audio and video playback and streaming with my
> > > HTPC.
>
> > > I figure if I decide to try the HTPC route again, I can always sell my
> > Oppo
> > > for close to what I paid for it, maybe even more since it's ISO capable,
> > > and invest in some other upgrades. The single biggest drawback to the
> > Oppo
> > > for me is the lack of gapless playback for CD rips. There are workarounds
> > > like ripping a single per-disc flac file, but it doesn't have gapless
> > > playback for individual flac files. DVD-A's and BD's aren't an issue
> > > because I can have gapless playback with the ISO. It's really the main
> > > reason I haven't totally removed the HTPC from the rack, although it's
> > > inconvenient to use since I don't keep it powered on. I also don't know
> > if
> > > I should give up the last universal player made by Oppo that probably
> > won't
> > > have Cinavia enabled, let alone being the rare ISO-capable universal
> > player.
>
> > > On Monday, June 11, 2012 2:59:39 PM UTC-4, MrMalice wrote:
>
> > > > An apology: I didn't intend my original comment to be sarcastic -
> > although
> > > > it certainly did sound snarky, didn't it?
>
> > > > My objective was to point out the HTPC as an alternative way to play
> > .ISO
> > > > files, since ISO-compatible Oppo's are on the endangered species list.
> > Yes,
> > > > foobar can do this for free. If you can afford the JRMC, it's a
> > beautiful,
> > > > versatile application.
>
> > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> As I said, I'm glad you're happy with your solution. It doesn't work
> > as
> > > >> well for me, but to each his own.
>
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