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Monday, May 21, 2012

Re: [SurroundSound] Dolby TrueHD upscaling

Yep.  What is sorta interesting is that they need to upsample  the music to do this.  My understanding is that it uses other tech to do this and the upsampling is what dolby is bringing to the party.  You put it very succinctly tho!  We are apparently now able to perceive what we were previously hearing.  Is something that bad with 24/48?  The proper artist and it sounds great.

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On May 21, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Lokkerman <phil.steeples@gmail.com> wrote:

so what are they saying - that we now can hear what we thought we could hear - although everyone was in denial about it and argued that we couldn't hear it - and it's now attributed to preringing???
lol, lol. lol

On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 4:47 PM, August Bleed <bleedink@gmail.com> wrote:
Or could be the opposite.  Most of the 24/96 stuff seems to be from specialty labels or those older rockers who have enough money to record in their homes.  Gotye is major label.  So is Norah Jones.  Don't think DangerMouse is using a DAW at home.  Pop on Qobuz and HDtracks from the majors seems to be coming out at a steady 24/44.1.  Check em out.

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Stephen Disney <sthunderrocker@gmail.com> wrote:
OK... Probably a home DAW.
S


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:45 PM, August Bleed <bleedink@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought the same about the recordings but Gotye has a website and they say the recorded at 24/44.1.  Same for Norah.  Surprising given that many of her releases were quite a bit higher.  Guess that's what happens when ya go pop.


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Stephen Disney <sthunderrocker@gmail.com> wrote:
This is of course only applicable to digital masters.  Analogue masters of course are a different story...
S



On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Stephen Disney <sthunderrocker@gmail.com> wrote:
Its not that they are recorded at 44.1.  They are usually recorded at 48k or better.  But the final masters only exist in 44.1 or 48.  My own music follows the same pattern as well.  Typically music has been 44.1k (thanks to the cd) and movies are 48k.  There has been no real push to move beyond as the widespread formats CD and DVD are set at those limits.  Bluray taking over should open all that up.
S



On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 10:34 PM, August Bleed <bleedink@gmail.com> wrote:
We were just talking about this recently with the Gotye release.  It's easy to think surely the studios MUST be recording in 24/96 right?  Not on your life.  The studio masters for both Norah Jones recent album and Gotye shows pop music is being recorded at 24/44.1.  That's the standard these days as surprising as it was to me.  Some eek out at 48 but virtually nothing outside specialty labels are recording at this rate.  I was interested, somewhat excited, somewhat troubled.  Surely in this day and age 24/44 is stretching the definition of high def.  I believe the studios are looking at their numerically challenged vaults and are looking to cash in on this at some point.  I'm all for it if it indeed can somehow better resolve waveforms and stuff and make music sound a bit more natural.  If it's intent is simply to be able to dump this stuff in a high res container for mass blu ray sales then I'm not too thrilled.  That said, there was some talk of reconstructing lost dynamics and such.  That is the first I've heard it claimed that something can be restored that wasn't present to begin with.  But apparently (we have to believe the folks at Stereophile at least have a passing interest in audio) the author could hear quite a difference in a symphonic piece and some in the other recordings.  So who knows.  That is quite a claim to make.  Interesting that the defacto format for BluRay Audio DTS HDMA (or something like that) is not the one introducing these downloads.  I'd have thought DTS would be chosen over dolby for this...in fact on most it has.  Perhaps there is some advantage to Dolby HD that I am not aware of.  This may have been it.  I guess we can rule out box sets of modern music coming down the pipe in another 20 years.  The best it seems we can hope for is upsampled Dolby!  lol!


On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Stephen Disney <sthunderrocker@gmail.com> wrote:
Interesting.  Very clearly points out the difference in sound perception between 48k and 96k.  Weird and yet nice to see that they have found a way to improve the sound in the uprez to 96k... but then why didn't these shows get recorded in native 96k?  Why not focus on that for new audio?  These were all recent audio.  Not old 48k studio masters.
S

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:21 PM, August Bleed <bleedink@gmail.com> wrote:

Here is an article on the Dolby TrueHD format and how they intend to upsample music to 24/96 for BluRay.
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