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Wednesday, February 1, 2012

[SurroundSound] Re: Can you tell the difference and find the original?

Once this test closes I can prepare any kind of testing material at
the group's request. However, I'm interested and feeling much better
in surround audio environment :-)

On febr. 1, 23:07, "Steven Sullivan" <ssu...@panix.com> wrote:
> Actually just using 2.0 tracks instead of 5.1 would probably have made the
> test more sensitive.  As Floyd Toole notes in his book, surround itself is
> more forgiving, masking in a number of audio flaws.
>
>
>
> > First of all I  will send my comments to Grill over the weekend as I  said
> > I would. But an interesting thing has cropped up - I find I had time
> > enough
> > for a quick listen on my study set up which is  the only  set up that I
> > now
> > have a DVD-A player (Pioneer 565a) as I have for the moment
> > de-commissioned
> > my Denon as for my reference system as I prefer my "tuned" HTPC.
> > The interesting thing is that the DVD-A didn't half try hard to mask the
> > evident smear, bordering on drop-outs on two of the tracks (we can guess
> > which these are) which on my study PC was almost unlistenable to me.
> > Now when I've listened on  my reference system I will pass on my comments
> > to Grill, not that I haven't made a judgement already.
>
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steven Sullivan <ssu...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >> OK, but here's a tip: to better *approach* scientific proof, it's best
> >> for
> >> people NOT to post their guesses publicly until *after* everyone's
> >> answers
> >> are in, to ensure subjects' answers are independent, i.e., they aren't
> >> influenced by other subjects' answers.
>
> >> > Some of us may think or hear different. We'll see it from the replies,
> >> > although we won't be able to get a scientific proof here as I mentined
> >> > it iin another thread.
>
> >> > On febr. 1, 00:33, "Steven Sullivan" <ssu...@panix.com> wrote:
> >> >> Difficult?  I thought the differences between lossy and lossles,
> >> between
> >> >> standard rez and high,  were supposed to be obvious?
>
> >> >> > I can add/change/omit tracks or give more info if the test proves
> >> to
> >> >> > be too difficult. We are not in a hurry so take your listening
> >> time. I
> >> >> > may invite the best assessor for a bottle of Hungarian wine during
> >> his
> >> >> > next visit to Budapest :-)
>
> >> >> > On jan. 31, 22:20, elshagon <elsha...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Too bad there's not an ac3 (dolby digital) track also, that's
> >> where
> >> >> >> you see a huge drop in quality.
>
> >> >> >> On Jan 31, 2:00 am, "Dave Cooper" <davecooper1...@yahoo.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > Oh good, an ambisonic test, oh sorry read it wrong lol
>
> >> >> >> > I'm offering you a WXYZ comparison test to check the audio
> >> >> >> evaluation
> >> >> >> > capability of your ears and mind. The hotlinked Hotfile link
> >> below
> >> >> >> > leads you to a DVD-audio disc image that contains four 5.1 24/96
> >> >> >> > tracks of the same audio material encoded as:
>
> >> >> >> > - unaltered original MLP 5.1 24/96,
> >> >> >> > - DTS 5.1 (755 kbps),
> >> >> >> > - DTS 5.1 (1510 kbps),
> >> >> >> > - DTS 24/96 5.1 (1510 kbps).
>
> >> >> >> > DTS-HD MAS 2.50.20 was used for DTS encoding and AudioMuxer with
> >> >> >> > ArcSoft DTS decoder was used for DTS decoding.
>
> >> >> >> > Your task is to determine the correct encoding order, at least
> >> to
> >> >> >> find
> >> >> >> > the original without using audio evaluating softwares. You can
> >> PM
> >> >> me
> >> >> >> > your guess and I'll send you the right answer back. Bravehearts
> >> can
> >> >> >> > reply publicly. Btw, I meant this to be a funny game so don't
> >> take
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> > too seriously (although there is no trick or scam in the testing
> >> >> >> > material).
>
> >> >> >> >http://hotfile.com/list/1973773/7086aff
>
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