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Saturday, September 3, 2011

[SurroundSound] Re: PS3 SACD rips

Sorry, I didn't read "linked ISO" I thought you were refering to all
of PS3 rips...

On Sep 2, 3:36 pm, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has anyone attempted to burn the linked ISO to DVD? If so, what burning app,
> what playback device/software, and what results?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Daun Polod <daunpo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can i have the link too? Thanks...
>
> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:32 AM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> If both of you didn't receive copies just drop me a line and Ill try
> >> again.
>
> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:30 AM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> You both should have received links to the file.  I should note I found
> >>> the linked torrent at another site than the original which seemed to
> >>> disappear from the internet.  So this version is not labeled like the former
> >>> one I had which had indicated it was an up mix.  this one indicates nothing
> >>> and doesn't really note the album or artist.  You should enjoy the iso for
> >>> kicks and giggles.  It certainly made me think HOW bad I need the new
> >>> SACD...since someone seems to have done a relatively competent job at their
> >>> home computer...maybe they should have hired this guy/gal instead of
> >>> guthrie...maybe then the immersion sets would only cost 100 bucks...lol
>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:19 AM, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> August,
>
> >>>> Seconds on requesting a private link to the WYWH.
>
> >>>> Thanks in advance,
>
> >>>> MrM
>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Stephen Disney <
> >>>> sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> Many were burned by unlabelled upmixes and fakes across the board for
> >>>>> years.  This is nothing new and regrettably unavoidable... except if you
> >>>>> know your source.  I will send you a private link.   Also... have you
> >>>>> updated to the latest foobar plugin version.  Maybe it was a cpu usage
> >>>>> issue?
>
> >>>>> Last thing I will say is that if you trust our members here... then you
> >>>>> trust the guys doing most of these releases.
>
> >>>>> August... can you link me in private to the WYWH upmix?
> >>>>> S
>
> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:42 PM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>> I downloaded both the APP and PF upmixes to SACD that are being
> >>>>>> discussed here.  We are all probably aware these came from (supposedly) Q8
> >>>>>> quad tapes that were at one time converted to DVD-A.  I downloaded them
> >>>>>> fully aware that they were fakes, but I love both the albums and figured
> >>>>>> what the heck lets see how well they did...Well, the APP wasn't really any
> >>>>>> different from the HDAD...however, PF WYWH is leagues different from the
> >>>>>> DVD-A out there.  Almost sounds like a studio release.  I almost thought I'd
> >>>>>> gotten a pre release version of the new release it's pretty remarkable labor
> >>>>>> of love.  Not to say that it shouldn't be labeled as an upmix (and I believe
> >>>>>> the sources I have were identified as such)...but for something someone
> >>>>>> likely made at home it sounds very good.
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM, pj-mckay <johnmc...@btinternet.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> To Stephen and Hardlock Cafe...
>
> >>>>>>> I agree with what you're saying and I trust you guys implicitely but
> >>>>>>> the PS3 rip thing is clearly in its infancy and the availability of
> >>>>>>> rips is a great thing for the future.  I think the audio market will
> >>>>>>> have to look at releasing in file form at some point, especially with
> >>>>>>> all this work.  Media players, Oppo with disk/file access, etc and
> >>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>> away from optical is the future in my mind.  I dont mind paying for
> >>>>>>> good quality but some of the recent prices being quoted are
> >>>>>>> ridiculous.  All your comments are appreciated.
>
> >>>>>>> Excluding you guys and the folk you say you trust....   someone will
> >>>>>>> release standard stuff packaged and named wrongly, and some of us
> >>>>>>> might be fooled.  I guess you could say that's tough, and I guess we
> >>>>>>> all might need to restrict ourselves to 'good guys' but I'm fearing
> >>>>>>> us
> >>>>>>> being duped and scoffed at.  Again; so  long as I have the actual
> >>>>>>> SACD
> >>>>>>> I will be able to compare and say yeh or nay but I'd much rather we
> >>>>>>> had some way of knowing genuine from fake (might not be possible and
> >>>>>>> maybe it's irrelevent if I can't tell).  At some point I am going to
> >>>>>>> download a 'ripped' multichannel version that I dont actually own
> >>>>>>> (I'll have the CD at least), and I am going to 'trust' it.  I'm
> >>>>>>> thinking of all the stuff Napster broadcast with the wrong tags in
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> early days; and things like 'turning Japanese' being associated with
> >>>>>>> The Kinks.  Once junk hits the internet there is no stopping it, no
> >>>>>>> hiding it, and no way back!  It'll turn up for years.
>
> >>>>>>> ps  I have seen folk talk of ripping their SACD when all they are
> >>>>>>> doing is ripping the hybrid part.  They're not even trying to fool
> >>>>>>> folk they're just not 100% aware of what they have done.  They're not
> >>>>>>> stupid, they're not malicious...   just wrong about what they think
> >>>>>>> they're doing.  And we can all be wrong about something at some point
> >>>>>>> in our life (many points in mine)..
>
> >>>>>>> pps Brubeck download; It wasn't so much distortion as total break-up.
> >>>>>>> And it was an ISO from another site, played through Foobar on my PC.
> >>>>>>> It was my first 'test' and maybe I need to build a list of trusty
> >>>>>>> sources.  You guys and your own control of the Hub will be a far
> >>>>>>> safer, and trusted, environment. That'll be another lesson for me to
> >>>>>>> take onboard.
>
> >>>>>>> Anyway...    A big THANK YOU to all the genuine work out there, and I
> >>>>>>> sincerely hope it changes the distribution of music in future.  It's
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> worthy dream surely.
>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 29, 9:13 am, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> > I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I will say that 90%
> >>>>>>> of what is
> >>>>>>> > out there labelled as PS3 SACD rips are in fact ripped as described
> >>>>>>> by known
> >>>>>>> > releasers.  There is a guy on rutracker posting assembled ISOs from
> >>>>>>> Pioneer
> >>>>>>> > ripped (special mod)  DFF files, but aside from the ISO not being a
> >>>>>>> true
> >>>>>>> > archive of the original, the audio should be identical.  Even so,
> >>>>>>> we are
> >>>>>>> > pushing for better labeling.  Yes... an I Robot upmix has been
> >>>>>>> posted as
> >>>>>>> > SACD ISO, but that was clearly labelled as an upmix.  Again...
> >>>>>>> labelling is
> >>>>>>> > key.  Also,  a well known pioneer of surround sharing has
> >>>>>>> resurfaced and is
> >>>>>>> > transferring other sources to SACD.  Again... labelled.
>
> >>>>>>> > Sure one could try to pass off a fake (but I don't think it would
> >>>>>>> last
> >>>>>>> > long).  However, these are legit and the quality is there.  Not
> >>>>>>> sure about
> >>>>>>> > your distortion issue.
> >>>>>>> > S
>
> >>>>>>> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:57 AM, pj-mckay <
> >>>>>>> johnmc...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> > > There's so much of interest here, but most of it is very
> >>>>>>> technical,
> >>>>>>> > > and a lot of followers will be showing a lot of 'faith' in the
> >>>>>>> > > work.
>
> >>>>>>> > > Taking a step back though;  Has anyone done much in the way of
> >>>>>>> audio
> >>>>>>> > > comparisons - source to converted quality?   Aside from the
> >>>>>>> technical
> >>>>>>> > > differences I like flac as I play mine on a network media player;
> >>>>>>>  I
> >>>>>>> > > could use the PC but that's not the way forward and has no
> >>>>>>> commercial
> >>>>>>> > > future IMHO.
>
> >>>>>>> > > I'm not trying to rock the boat but unless the quality is there
> >>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>> > > the start it has little meaning to me and others.  No point in
> >>>>>>> hi-res
> >>>>>>> > > noise, jitter, artefacts etc, and we're all aware of a few on
> >>>>>>> > > different recordings.  For instance I downloaded the a Dave
> >>>>>>> Brubeck
> >>>>>>> > > album jus to see what it sounded like; stereo seemed fine; 2 of
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> > > multichannel were very distorted and I deleted the lot.
>
> >>>>>>> > > How can we tell we're downloading a good rip and a genuine sacd?
> >>>>>>>  Not
> >>>>>>> > > from you guys, but cowboys and kidders will stsart to jump on
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> > > bandwagon for a giggle.  We'll see upmixes, flac conversions of
> >>>>>>> normal
> >>>>>>> > > CDs to higher bitrates.  A bit like hi-res vinyl rips, or hi-res
> >>>>>>> quad
> >>>>>>> > > tapes that are clearly past their best.....    they've no
> >>>>>>> interest to
> >>>>>>> > > me.
>
> >>>>>>> > > What I'm asking is if there's any danger we are all fooled by
> >>>>>>> some
> >>>>>>> > > joker uploading upmixes, or hi-res rips of a normal CD?  Apart
> >>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>> > > having the real sacd I'm not 100% I've got more than 'faith' to
> >>>>>>> rely
> >>>>>>> > > on (apart from corrupt/distorted work thats no use anyway.  Just
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> > > thought.
>
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