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Wednesday, August 3, 2011

[SurroundSound] Re: Can you stream DVD-A Audio Object Files with a DLNA server?

I know there are multi-bay enclosures that will work with Oppo but
there are reports that some brands won't work. One that has been
confirmed to work is the Hotway probox 4-bay enclosure. I'm looking to
add a multi-bay enclosure soon as I'm filling up the two 2TB HDD I'm
currently using. I have to manually switch the hard drives on the Oppo
which is not the best solution.

My current setup consists of a 2TB WD network drive that contains all
my FLAC files (stereo and multichannel). I use this to stream to the
Oppo via Twonky, and I can also stream these to a PS3 in another room
using PS3 Media Server which transcodes the FLAC files.

I have two 2TB Seagate GoFlex drives that are attached to the Oppo
(but not at the same time), one of which contains all of my DVD-A and
DVD-V ISO's. The second 2TB drive contains my Blu-ray ISO's which are
mostly concert videos and a few movie Blu-rays. As I rip more movie
Blu-rays, this 2TB drive will fill up fast. That's why I need at least
a 4-bay or maybe larger enclosure.

These drives are all backups to the two 3TB drives on my pc. I use a
synch program (Synchronize It) to basically clone these drives with
the pc drives containing my digitial media. Again, not the most
elegant solution but it has been cobbled together over time.


On Aug 3, 11:39 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would assume you can connect multiple drives as I have a multiple drive
> bay and it is filled with more than one HDD.  I haven't tried it with the
> bays filled but why not?  Yes you are going to have problems if you transfer
> to an NTFS volume with a Mac unless you use a bootcamp thing.  For some
> reason the journaling system in the OS makes these shadow copies all over
> the place.  These are visible to the Oppo and you have to scroll thru these
> normally hidden files to get to the actual files that play.  Twice the work!
>  They cannot be deleted by normal means.  Use windows in bootcamp.  And no
> matter how you have your drives attached to the NAS the Oppo won't see it
> the same way.  You can't play iso's over the network.  Nobody likes it.  But
> that's as they say the way it is.
> I use a Drobo.  They are slow as molasses but they do a great job of backing
> up your data in their weird RAID thing.  I even had 2 drives out of 4 out at
> the same time and it merely asked me to put one back in and the data was
> intact.  Pretty kewl.  Makes up for the fact that it is SLOW.  You can still
> stream just about anything no prob.  I find it an elegant solution sorta a
> la apple.  Plug it in, just works.  This also eliminates the headaches of
> backing up your external drives which isn't real ez to do.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:22 PM, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Again, thanks for your input here. This is extremely helpful.
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> > Just curious - what drive types/drive capacities are you using?
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> > And how do you backup your data?
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> > My thought would be to get a 4-bay NAS drive for the FLAC-drive, using
> > RAID 5 for backup. But backing up the Oppo drive might require a
> > duplicate drive?
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> > On Aug 2, 9:23 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I end up keeping both the FLAC's and the ISO. The FLAC's stay on my
> > > network drive for streaming purposes, and the ISO's reside on the hard
> > > drive attached to the Oppo. I like the flexibility of playing FLAC's
> > > using Twonky, especially the ability to easily select tracks by genre,
> > > artist, etc. or set up playlists. Also, one of the recent firmware
> > > revisions made selecting and retrieving FLAC files via Twonky very
> > > fast compared to the original firmware in the Oppo.  The ISO is nice
> > > to have if you want to burn a backup copy to a disc or access the
> > > other material such as videos, etc. It requires more hard drive space
> > > to keep both the ISO and FLAC files, but each serves it's purpose.
>
> > > Be aware that there have been reports of some multi-bay enclosures not
> > > working with the Oppo. The Oppo also does not currently support hard
> > > drives larger than 2TB's. I have been in contact with Oppo and they
> > > are supposed to be investigating this and hopefully there will be a
> > > firmware update to support 3TB and larger hard drives in the future.
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> > > On Aug 1, 9:52 pm, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Thanks for the reply. BTW I see you are on The Hub, I am now a member
> > > > there.
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> > > > So since the Oppo doesn't support AOB's then that rules out the idea
> > > > of AOB streaming. Not a bad thing actually, since I realize that there
> > > > are many options that I am sorting through in order to figure out how
> > > > best to organize and play material. Knowing that the Oppo plays iso's
> > > > on attached storage might help me figure things out. But it seems that
> > > > Flac is really the most flexible file type - it can be streamed
> > > > easily, can hold multichannel and hi res media, and it doesn't take up
> > > > tons of storage.
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> > > > So is the idea of keeping a "complete" Flac collection (ALL of my
> > > > audio, both hi res/multichannel and stereo CD audio) a good one? If
> > > > so, I guess I will be keeping multiple file types of the same album -
> > > > I want the iso's for backup/disc burning and the flacs for streaming/
> > > > playback. Or perhaps once I burn the DVD-A disc I can keep this as my
> > > > backup, have the flac for playback, and in theory I wouldn't need the
> > > > iso anymore...some food for thought.
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> > > > I believe a 4-bay NAS device is next on my list.
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> > > > On Aug 1, 5:28 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > I use Twonky to stream to my Oppo 93. Unfortunately, the Oppo
> > supports
> > > > > the VOB container format, but not AOB.  I have FLAC files ripped from
> > > > > most of my DVD-A's so they can be streamed via Twonky. No problem
> > > > > streaming multichannel or stereo FLAC files ripped from DVD-A's.
> > > > > However, since Oppo began supporting ISO's from attached storage, I
> > > > > now play my DVD-A ISO's on the Oppo from an attached hard drive. It's
> > > > > nice to have full menu control and access to any videos and the
> > hi-rez
> > > > > stereo tracks from the ISO's.  The hard drive attached to the Oppo
> > > > > also serves as a back-up to the ISO's on my PC hard drive.  The only
> > > > > hassle is disconnecting the attached hard drive and lugging it the PC
> > > > > to synch/add files. There is currently no way to stream ISO's via
> > > > > DLNA, supposedly because the DLNA protocol doesn't support it.
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> > > > > On Aug 1, 1:27 am, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > I have a bunch of DVD-A discs stored as .iso files. I mount them on
> > my
> > > > > > desktop (Mac), and  I would like to stream the hi res DVD-A files
> > > > > > (Audio Object Files, or AOB's) to my Oppo BDP-93. Currently I am
> > using
> > > > > > Twonky, and I can only stream the VOB Dolby Surround files in the
> > > > > > VIDEO_TS folder, not the AOB files in the AUDIO_TS folder. It seems
> > > > > > that Twonky does not support AOB streaming.
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> > > > > > Is it possible to stream the AOB files? Or is it standard practice
> > to
> > > > > > convert the files to Flac and stream them as Flac? I would love to
> > be
> > > > > > able to stream the AOB's if possible.
>
> > > > > > Thanks in advance!
>
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