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Tuesday, August 2, 2011

Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Can you stream DVD-A Audio Object Files with a DLNA server?

So then those files undergo some kind of PCM conversion right? I'm assuming the flacs don't carry the DSD signal? And what is the conversion tool? BTW thanks for testing that. I don't have any iso's of sacd's. Also any effect on sound quality to flac vs just playing a burnt disc? And by sacd-r I am thinking you mean iso to DVD?

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On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:01 AM, scolumbo <sacolumbo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, it didn't work. I tested using the E. Power Biggs SACD-
> R ISO that I had previously burned to a DVD and which I had played on
> the Oppo several times. I used DVDFab to create an ISO from the DVD
> disc. I get the same "File Not Supported" message on the Oppo. I can
> play the ISO ripped from the DVD disc on my pc using foobar so the ISO
> is not the problem.
>
> I have SACD output set to PCM on the Oppo to let it do the decoding,
> but my AVR can also decode DSD (Denon 3808). So, I changed the setting
> in Oppo to send the DSD directly to my Denon, but that made no
> difference. The Oppo just can't read the SACD-R ISO.
>
> By the way, the Oppo can can play FLAC files created from the SACD-R
> ISO, just not the ISO directly. Either a DVD disc has to be burned, or
> FLAC files created from the ISO.
>
> On Aug 2, 12:24 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks so much feel free to email me personally as well. Like I said I
>> would like to report the results so that others who are attempting to do
>> this have an idea if it is going to work...we are all sorta holding our
>> breaths...and I can't get on the hub to grab an sacd iso to try this stuff
>> out myself...I don't need to confirm that your receiver decodes DSD and all
>> that right? I'm trying to be certain if it indeed does not work that it is
>> not some hardware limitation...but if you got the DVD to work...then i guess
>> I answered my own question!!! Anyway let us know!!!!
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>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hmmm.... interesting, I'll try it and see what happens.
>>
>>> On Aug 2, 11:57 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> You said that the oppo won't play sacd iso's from the attached HDD right?
>>>> But you said it would play the resultant file ripped to a DVD? Have you
>>>> tried taking the ripped DVD and making an .iso out of that? It sounds
>>>> counterintuitive because they should be the same file. But Im thinking
>>> that
>>>> may be the workaround. Would ya try it and lemme know? We are really
>>>> hoping this support pans out somehow. I'd like to share this information
>>>> with some others if you can confirm for me. Thanks. Oh and thanks for
>>> the
>>>> compliment on the thread. Hoping it helps.
>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:30 AM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I am currently creating ISO's of all my disc media, including DVD-V's
>>>>> and Blu-rays, as well as my DVD-A's which are already completed. I am
>>>>> quickly filling up lots of hard drive space, especially with the Blu-
>>>>> rays.
>>
>>>>> Be aware that the one ISO that will not currently play on the Oppo are
>>>>> the SACD-R ISO's. They will play on burned DVD-R discs, but not from
>>>>> the ISO.
>>
>>>>> On Aug 1, 10:19 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> yes i meant precisely what I wrote. You can access all your discs by
>>>>> making
>>>>>> images of them and attaching an ntfs formatted drive to the oppo and
>>>>>> pressing a disk image to play it. You need to have the latest
>>> firmware
>>>>>> installed for this to work.
>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:16 PM, citysoundman <
>>> bobkirschn...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the info. Would you mind just clarifying for me:
>>>>>>> > You can't stream an iso but you can most definitely play an iso
>>> of
>>>>>>> a DVD-A,
>>>>>>>> a DVD, a BluRay, a 3dBluray, and the ability to play AVCHD files
>>> by
>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> selecting the BDMV file folder and it will treat the folder as a
>>> disc
>>>>>>> image
>>>>>>>> as well with the expected menus and DTS-HD MSTR support and the
>>> like.
>>
>>>>>>> Do you mean specifically playing an iso from the Oppo BDP93
>>> attached
>>>>>>> storage?
>>>>>>> The BDP93 can access any of these file types if they are iso's?
>>>>>>> If so, then would it make sense to keep my iso collection on a
>>> drive
>>>>>>> attached to the Oppo, while keeping my flacs on a streaming server?
>>>>>>> That sounds like a good arrangement.
>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 6:44 pm, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>> per the other person, you can stream VOB depending on your media
>>>>> server,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> AOB can't be streamed either. One program, Playback media server
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> mac
>>>>>>>> provides playback of m2ts music files with DTS HD MSTR support
>>> over
>>>>>>> DLNA
>>>>>>>> believe it or not. However the performance was a little spotty
>>>>> streaming
>>>>>>>> that particular kind of encoding. If you allow the Oppo to
>>> convert
>>>>> it to
>>>>>>>> LPCM it sometimes will aid some of the hiccups that you get over
>>> the
>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>> without compromising the sound quality all that much. Hope that
>>>>> helps.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> started a thread at computer audiophile.com for oppo bdp 93/95
>>> users
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> chime in about how to get things to play on the mac side. It
>>> also
>>>>> serves
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> a place to ask questions and provides some basic info. best to
>>> you!
>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:28 PM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I use Twonky to stream to my Oppo 93. Unfortunately, the Oppo
>>>>> supports
>>>>>>>>> the VOB container format, but not AOB. I have FLAC files
>>> ripped
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> most of my DVD-A's so they can be streamed via Twonky. No
>>> problem
>>>>>>>>> streaming multichannel or stereo FLAC files ripped from
>>> DVD-A's.
>>>>>>>>> However, since Oppo began supporting ISO's from attached
>>> storage, I
>>>>>>>>> now play my DVD-A ISO's on the Oppo from an attached hard
>>> drive.
>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>> nice to have full menu control and access to any videos and the
>>>>> hi-rez
>>>>>>>>> stereo tracks from the ISO's. The hard drive attached to the
>>> Oppo
>>>>>>>>> also serves as a back-up to the ISO's on my PC hard drive. The
>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> hassle is disconnecting the attached hard drive and lugging it
>>> the
>>>>> PC
>>>>>>>>> to synch/add files. There is currently no way to stream ISO's
>>> via
>>>>>>>>> DLNA, supposedly because the DLNA protocol doesn't support it.
>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 1:27 am, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have a bunch of DVD-A discs stored as .iso files. I mount
>>> them
>>>>> on
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> desktop (Mac), and I would like to stream the hi res DVD-A
>>> files
>>>>>>>>>> (Audio Object Files, or AOB's) to my Oppo BDP-93. Currently I
>>> am
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>> Twonky, and I can only stream the VOB Dolby Surround files in
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> VIDEO_TS folder, not the AOB files in the AUDIO_TS folder. It
>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>> that Twonky does not support AOB streaming.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to stream the AOB files? Or is it standard
>>>>> practice to
>>>>>>>>>> convert the files to Flac and stream them as Flac? I would
>>> love
>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>> able to stream the AOB's if possible.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>
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