me to info on this? I'm aware of Foobars dvd-audio watermark
detector, but that simply let's you know the watermark is there.
On Jul 3, 8:26 am, realafrica <paul.gam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree with elshagon and Lokks, but watermark removal is a service
> being provided by hub members especially via HRON forum. It can be
> done with foobar components, so there is no excuse to convert to lossy
> dts for the DVD-A capable car players. I imagine Paul would rather not
> down-convert to lossy DTS if he does not need to eh?
> I'm not stuck on any viewpoint here, I'm open-minded about it all. But
> as said, let's adjourn to the Hub or HRON forum, for this discussion,
> if it is to continue.
>
> On Jul 2, 11:05 pm, Lokkerman <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Guys we are all hub members - perhaps we should debate this out on the hub -
> > dirty washing in public being a criterion?
>
> > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:39 PM, elshagon <elsha...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > If a player can't play watermarked dvd-a then it simply can't play
> > > watermaked dvd-audio. By conversion you mean what? To dts? I think
> > > it will be difficult for "newbies" to bring much that is new to the
> > > hub. Look at some of our shares, we're talking TB's now! I think
> > > what's important is that they share, love music and stick around
> > > instead of just grabbing and running.
>
> > > On Jul 2, 2:12 pm, realafrica <paul.gam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > SACD conversions to DTS I meant.
> > > > Also want to ask Paul why he thinks he has no means of watermarked DVD-
> > > > A conversion when others do have it.
>
> > > > On Jul 2, 10:07 pm, realafrica <paul.gam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I see there are good points on both sides here. Newbies generally find
> > > > > it difficult to come to the hub with anything new and they need to
> > > > > start somewhere.
> > > > > When I came to the hub, my first offering share was something like
> > > > > 150GB of retail DVD-A nothing DTS.
> > > > > I agree that hardware encoded DTS is fine sounding usually and I find
> > > > > it perfectly acceptable as an almost Hi Res format. But what I see
> > > > > arriving with so many new people over the last 6 months is the same
> > > > > old catalogue of DTS-CDs and sacd conversions to SACD that they picked
> > > > > up from the green dragon and such outlets. The majority of what they
> > > > > bring as their 1st share is what our hub members made and even older
> > > > > Mojave stuff from years ago.
> > > > > I don't see why others can't do what I did and bring something of real
> > > > > value and true Hi Res as a 1st share.
> > > > > I've no argument with people that have fancy cars that play only DTS -
> > > > > CDs. They do what they need to do to get their music in their cars, in
> > > > > as best format as possible and if they prefer mp3 sound in surround
> > > > > overbetter quality stereo in a noisy car then I can't criticise them
> > > > > for that.
> > > > > Like I started with.....I'm tired of looking at the same tired old dts
> > > > > catalogue from all out newbies when they could be bringing something
> > > > > fresh. Again If as a newbie I can do it then anyone can do it.
> > > > > Maybe not outlaw DTS-CDs but request people, please at least try to do
> > > > > better than they do at present.
>
> > > > > On Jul 2, 9:15 pm, Lokkerman <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Paul
>
> > > > > > The Hardware encoded DTS discs sound great but some of the software
> > > encoded
> > > > > > ones; well sound like MP3 - but that is no issue for the car
>
> > > > > > We are all aware of your contribution to the hub and community -
> > > what MWC
> > > > > > made clear is that we want newbie's to start adding some newer
> > > content.
>
> > > > > > Actually it does raise an issue here that we are now so organised as
> > > a group
> > > > > > that new content is created by ourselves so it is hard to add
> > > anything new.
> > > > > > We are living our ideal as archivers, which is what we set out to do,
> > > so
> > > > > > being circumspect the starting path to quad is DTS, hence why newb's
> > > only
> > > > > > have DTS.
>
> > > > > > In a library like ours it is hard to add new books, but folks start
> > > reading
> > > > > > which is what we should encourage. DTS is the starter book.
>
> > > > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Paul Garfunkel <
> > > paulgarfun...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I know I am not the only one who is tired of people putting down
> > > DTS CD's,
> > > > > > > some material is only avalible that way (some of the best stuff
> > > mind you)
> > > > > > > and as someone who does not have a method to copy DVD-A watermarked
> > > disc I
> > > > > > > have no other way to listen to these titles in my Acura RL but to
> > > transfer
> > > > > > > to DTS CD.
>
> > > > > > > I am a life long audiophile and record dealer and we could have the
> > > same
> > > > > > > argument that digital media is still far and away inferior to vinyl
> > > no
> > > > > > > matter what the format.
>
> > > > > > > I bet most of the people that are making this argument (not the top
> > > 5%)
> > > > > > > would not be able to tell the difference between DTS-CD and DVD-A
> > > > > > > blindfolded.
>
> > > > > > > Stop the hate, DTS is still a good format and I you are making
> > > DVD-A off 8
> > > > > > > track tape quads you have not right to put down DTS.
>
> > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Lokkerman <phil.steep...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> ok sounds good - done :-))
>
> > > > > > >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:46 PM, realafrica <paul.gam...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>> Any chance of not counting DTS-CDs and maybe lossy dts stuff in
> > > > > > >>> general for the newbies entrance fee?
> > > > > > >>> I tire of all these new people coming with only crap to share.
> > > > > > >>> OK, after some time, they have grabbed better stuff off the hub
> > > and
> > > > > > >>> are able to help 'seed' it, but until then and unless they
> > > actually
> > > > > > >>> stay online for a reasonable length of time to help with
> > > 'seeding'
> > > > > > >>> they don't have anything to offer.
>
> > > > > > >>> On Jun 29, 11:49 pm, lokkerman <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>> > sorry lossy not lossless
>
> > > > > > >>> > On Jun 29, 11:48 pm, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>> > > 10 GB was set as a minimum to stop timewasters - most places
> > > in the
> > > > > > >>> world
> > > > > > >>> > > support some form of broadband - poor old Grill at one time
> > > was the
> > > > > > >>> worst
> > > > > > >>> > > for getting a narrowband experience, now it's a different
> > > game - 10
> > > > > > >>> GB is
> > > > > > >>> > > not even 4 albums of Hires multi-channel content, in some
> > > respects it
> > > > > > >>> should
> > > > > > >>> > > be more.
> > > > > > >>> > > Also the 3 month rule was never fully policed as some folks
> > > wanted to
> > > > > > >>> have a
> > > > > > >>> > > try-buy experience; the Chicago re-releases spring to mind.
> > > Great
> > > > > > >>> concept,
> > > > > > >>> > > great mix; lossless and expensive low-fi. Most of us enjoy
> > > serious
> > > > > > >>> quality -
> > > > > > >>> > > I find AC3 and ordinary DTS just so difficult to listen to.
> > > This
> > > > > > >>> meant that
> > > > > > >>> > > 3 months rules do apply but if it is raised that the item is
> > > not
> > > > > > >>> worth
> > > > > > >>> > > purchasing, as an example, then there are reasons to
> > > circulate.
> > > > > > >>> Otherwise it
> > > > > > >>> > > is fair to support the artists and buy the product. Any
> > > questions PM
> > > > > > >>> me
> > > > > > >>> > > please on what goes.. ;-P
>
> > > > > > >>> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >>> > > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > > >>> surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>
> > > > > > >>> > > On Behalf Of grill
> > > > > > >>> > > Sent: 29 June 2011 10:35
> > > > > > >>> > > To: SurroundSound
> > > > > > >>> > > Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Hub Rules...
>
> > > > > > >>> > > "Any chance of removing the 3-month rule on new releases? "
>
> > > > > > >>> > > I'd say no for hi-res titles. Afaik it was and it's been a
> > > quite
> > > > > > >>> steady
> > > > > > >>> > > consensus among the Hub members.
>
> > > > > > >>> > > On jún. 28, 19:36, Tab Cursor <tabcur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >>> > > > Any chance of removing the 3-month rule on new releases?
>
> > > > > > >>> > > > Also, removing the 10 MB share limits?
>
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