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Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Few Little New Year's Presents

I'm using a Jetway ION-Top PC for my HTPC. Basically the same an an Xtreamer. It's
connected to a Yamaha RX-V1065 HDMI receiver via HDMI. The Yamaha is used as a pre-amp for
my NAD 6ch power amp.

OS is a minimal Ubuntu Linux with XBMC as the front end for video playback (no desktop
UI). Interface is via a harmony remote (or wireless mouse sometimes). I use MPD (Music
Player Daemon) to play music (flac). This includes DVD-A, CD's and SQ quad vinyl rips.
I usually use my iPad with a MPD client to control music playback.

BD can be played but I haven't bought a BD rom yet.

I'm really happy with it.

On 09/03/11 14:42, Bob Russell wrote:
> Please still keep us informed of your progress. This seems a logical next step for me
> also. Or something like it. I will also be looking for a new receiver/amplifier/player.
> Anyone have any ideas? I like to find bargains and enjoy getting lots of features for the
> lowest price. I think the Amp+ needs to have pass thru HDMI so can feed my LCD TV.
>
>
> On 3/8/2011 9:16 PM, Kevan2 wrote:
>> Sorry my bad - I misunderstood what the device was.
>> Thanks for setting me right.
>> Sorry for the confusion
>> I want one now :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Mark
>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2011 1:29 PM
>> To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Few Little New Year's Presents
>>
>> You're right - it's the software that allows for gapless playback.
>>
>>
>> <just to clarify>
>>
>> The Xtreamer itself is just a ION based PC, like many others available.
>> Gapless playback
>> via streaming is easily done.
>>
>> Lets also consider that using an ION based PC as a source will not
>> necessarily require
>> streaming. 'Streaming' is when the source is remote from from the playback
>> device and
>> connected via network. Playing straight from something like the Xtreamer via
>> HDMI or SPDIF
>> is not streaming.
>>
>> </end clarification>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/03/11 09:29, Bob Russell wrote:
>>> I have been a member of this group for about three years now. I have
>> learned so much from
>>> others. So I want to ask a questiion (I am not trying to be a smart ass)
>>>
>>> How could you tell from the specifications that it lacks gapless audio
>> playback?
>>> I see the Xtreamer ultra as a very nice compact piece of hardware
>> (computer) with the
>>> right stuff in it to support the latest HDMI standard that should play all
>> of the High
>>> definition audio plus the older DTS, Dolby and prologic II material. It is
>> also relatively
>>> inexpensive.
>>>
>>> Also is not gapless audio playback a function of the player? I have used
>> Shaplayer to play
>>> gapless DVD-A for the last several years. Other players like foobar and
>> VLC may play
>>> gapless but I have not taken the time to evaluate them. Perhaps others
>> here might help you
>>> with their experience with those players.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2011 2:08 AM, Kevan2 wrote:
>>>> The Xtreamer sounds awesome but for me the deal breaker is a lack of
>> gapless
>>>> audio playback for any streamer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Bob Russell
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2011 4:44 PM
>>>> To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Few Little New Year's Presents
>>>>
>>>> Please keep us informed on your progress. xtremer ultra looks
>>>> promising. I am doubtful they can do all they advertise. If they do -
>> wow!
>>>> What are you thinking about for an Amp/Reciever/player?
>>>>
>>>> On 3/7/2011 5:42 PM, laserwolf wrote:
>>>>> I've been looking to make the switch to a htpc and finally have found
>>>>> one that I am excited about. Hope to have the below setup in the next
>>>>> couple of months.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.xtreamer.net/Ultra/
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.synology.com/us/products/DS411slim/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 6, 8:19 am, "Lokkerman"<phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Flac is the way to go but there are a lot of folks out there that have
>>>> not
>>>>>> got round to media players.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of pj-mckay
>>>>>> Sent: 04 March 2011 09:34
>>>>>> To: SurroundSound
>>>>>> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Few Little New Year's Presents
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't it be progressive to dispense with optical media for all apart
>>>> from
>>>>>> distribution though? Dont get me wrong; You guys do a fantastic job but
>>>>>> its way too much hassle for me. All I want is my media in file format
>>>> and
>>>>>> playable from a media player. Mine is a PopcornHour C-200 but dont let
>>>> the
>>>>>> name belittle it. It plays my multichannel media fine, and lets me have
>>>> ALL
>>>>>> my collection in one browsable location. No more searching for discs
>>>> etc.
>>>>>> And if Linn are also in the market for networked, streaming music, that
>>>>>> tells me its the future whether via cheapish kit ($400) or esoteric
>> high
>>>> end
>>>>>> suppliers..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So for me, DVD-A into the drive (or download an iso and mount it via
>>>> virtual
>>>>>> clone), plop it into foobar, convert mlp to multichannel
>>>>>> flac.... 10 minutes later I've an LP in 24 bit, 96KHz, flac on the
>>>>>> network. I see Apple are releasing more hi res music, and I do hope it
>>>>>> catches on and leads the industry to do more file based distribution,
>> at
>>>> a
>>>>>> decent price. I'm no itunes user though, but might have to become one
>>>>>> unless the rest of the players see the potential (and the risk to their
>>>> own
>>>>>> business if they dont follow suit). I
>>>>>> don't even mind some DRM policies limiting it to my use.. so long as
>>>>>> I can get it in the first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone: Keep up the good work meantime but lets keep our options open
>>>> and
>>>>>> start dispesing with optical media as much as we can. At least I can
>>>> grab
>>>>>> some of the conversions and get access to the music somehow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ps My real optical use now is only Blu-Ray movies, some DVD films, and
>>>> SACD
>>>>>> (one day we might get them decrytped properly and they can get filed
>>>> too).
>>>>>> Convert CDs to 320k mp3 for the kids zens/ipods, and use the files on
>>>> 2Gig
>>>>>> SD cards in both cars. Stick the CDs in the cupboard for backup, and
>>>>>> similarly with commonly used DVD films for the kids. DVD-A never
>>>> playback,
>>>>>> CDs are only used by the wife, in the kitchen. My vision is for file
>>>> based
>>>>>> music, Hi and Lo resolution, on the network for everyone in the house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 11:15 am, jolson<j.jol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I read your comment with the info there, didn't go to gearslutz
>>>>>>> tho... :) will check it out.
>>>>>>> Soon people can create copies of SACD's, create (artificial) multi-
>>>>>>> channel SACD's from stereo SACD's, copy SACD to DVD-A, copy DVD-A to
>>>>>>> SACD, copy watermarked DVD-A's to DVD-A...
>>>>>>> BTW, does anyone know if that program to remove watermarks will be
>>>>>>> released to us?
>>>>>>> On 23 Feb, 03:46, VF<vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> jolson: "My comment on the avax page has more news, and interesting
>>>>>>>> info, so check it out"
>>>>>>>> :P
>>>>>>>> just saves me having to post the info everywhere...avax comment has
>>>>>>>> link to a thread on gearslutz showing list of working 'current'
>>>>>>>> SACD-R players by friend of mine.
>>>>>>>> laserwolf: r u sure it really works with the Oppo BPP-83? it plays
>>>>>>>> two tracks of a classical orchestral piece?
>>>>>>>> if so....cool, and I can get it added to that gearslutz list....but
>>>>>>>> ofc the goal is to work on EVERY player...and this definitely will
>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>> maybe bdp-83 works since due to same components as those new sony
>>>>>>>> bd/ sacd players....which all play current gen SACD-R.
>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 11:42 pm, laserwolf<laserw...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks VF for this. I tested the SACD file with the method
>>>>>>>>> described and found that it works on my Oppo BDP-83 Special
>>>>>>>>> Edition. My display shows SACD Stereo on the Oppo and Sony
>>>>>>>>> Receiver shows 88.2kHz sample frequency. I tested in pure DSD mode
>>>>>>>>> and PCM. Now I can finally back up all of my SACD's. Hopefully the
>>>>>>>>> Super Author program will make the process simple as you stated.
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 3:50 pm, jolson<j.jol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! "As of now, there won't be many SACD players that can
>>>>>>>>>> play back this early SACD-R type." - any player you know DO work?
>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Feb, 00:14, VF<vf.surro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is Pyramix Virtual Studio:
>> http://avaxhome.ws/software/software_type/multimedia/Audio_Editing/Me...
>>>>>>>>>>> The main significance of this program (for us) is that it can
>>>>>>>>>>> create SACD images. Thus, anyone can now try out the current
>>>>>>>>>>> generation of 'SACD-R' experimenting.
>>>>>>>>>>> My comment on the avax page has more news, and interesting
>>>>>>>>>>> info, so check it out. Would be cool if anyone wants to do
>>>>>>>>>>> some general experimenting with SACD-R now. Otherwise...just
>>>>>>>>>>> stay tuned :) But I know some russians are eager to do testing
>>>>>>>>>>> so I'm definitely going to let *them* know :).
>>>>>>>>>>> All the best
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