I have a couple of decent surround receivers, and while neither of them are compatible with hdmi or any of the hd-audio formats, I really don't miss it (yet). They do have inputs for my dvd-audio player and a few digital inputs, so I feel like I am pretty much covered. In addition to the dvd-audio thing, I also have an older pc hooked up to the a receiver with an rca-spdif cable so that I can play back dts-cd quad files without having to get a multichannel soundcard or having to settle for pc sub/sat speaker systems.
As far as realafrica's response pertaining to using 5 full range speakers, totally a legit way to go. However, one thing you want to keep in mind is that most manufacturers of surround receivers are expecting you to use a powered sub, and unless you shell out big bucks for an amp with a killer power stage (like 5 separate discrete channels), you will lose a significant amount of volume and headroom because the receivers amp is using power to reproduce bass frequencies. Even though I have full range speakers in my system, I still set the speakers to small and use the powered sub, as the whole thing runs a lot better that way. The trend nowadays with surround receivers is that the video features are more important than the power stage, so be careful. - CP
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From: realafrica <paul.gambia@gmail.com>
To: SurroundSound <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 9:54 am
Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Playing 5.1 in a 4.0 setup
From: realafrica <paul.gambia@gmail.com>
To: SurroundSound <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 9:54 am
Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Playing 5.1 in a 4.0 setup
On a tangent to this... my main system was quad with 4 full size cabs, but then I bought a centre speaker and just turned off LFE in the Denon receiver's settings, so all bass goes to the 12" woofers in my cabs and I don't use the .1 in any kind of 'sub woofer' at all. To my way of thinking the 'sub' stands for substitute for having proper 12" woofers in the first place :-}} Therefore I guess you could say I run a 5.0 system rather than a quad nowadays. On Jan 27, 6:00 pm, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know about your soundcard, but most creative cards give 4.0 as > an option in speaker setups. Also, while I don't know how well it > works, VLC give the option to output 2front/2rear on all 5.1 audio. > S > > On 1/27/11, Peter Cawthron <peter_cawth...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > Hi Alejandro, > > > I do the same as you - nearly all my quad listening is from a PC into a > > Sansui QRX-9001 receiver. > > > Most of the time I use foobar with the Matrix Mixer add-in. For 5.1 material > > I usually send 0.5 of the C to both LF and RF, and I send 0.25 of LFE to > > each of LF, RF, LR, RR. > > > When you ask about an 'automatic' method you could use a DirectShow filter > > like AC3Filter or ffdshow - although I lost track of what players these work > > with - but all that means is that someone else has chosen the default > > matrix. In AC3Filter the default for its '2/2 - quadro' output is: > > > LF comprises L=0.4531 + C=0.3204 + LFE=0.2265 > > > RF comprises R=0.4531 + C=0.3204 + LFE=0.2265 > > > LR comprises LR=0.4531 + LFE=0.2265 > > > RR comprises RR=0.4531 + LFE=0.2265 > > > You can change the default values in AC3Filter. Something very similar is > > done in ffdshow with a customisable matrix. > > > Regards, > > > Peter > > > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com] > > On Behalf Of Alejandro Valdez > > Sent: 27 January 2011 3:47 PM > > To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com > > Subject: [SurroundSound] Playing 5.1 in a 4.0 setup > > > Hi group, I've a homemade 4.0 quad setup (cheap, but does the job) connected > > to a PC to play my files (DVD-A, FLAC, anything...). > > > When listening to 5.1 mixes I found that I'm loosing an important part of > > the audio track, sometimes the voice goes in the center channel of the 5.1 > > mix and is missing in the front channels. > > > I discovered that using a matrix mixer (a kind of DSP in your media player > > of choice) I can redirect any amount of the center channel to the front > > channels, that works but: > > > 1) I don't know if I'm getting the right mix (how much of the center and sub > > channels should I send to the front channels?) > > > 2) I would like a player that can convert on-the-fly the 5.1 tracks to a 4.0 > > output without any changes in the configuration (I mean automatically). > > > I guess that I'm not the only one in this situation, so how do you solve > > this kind of issues?... any player/plugin suggestions? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "SurroundSound" group. > > To post to this group, send email to SurroundSound@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > SurroundSound-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/SurroundSound > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "SurroundSound" group. > > To post to this group, send email to SurroundSound@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > SurroundSound-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/SurroundSound -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SurroundSound" group. To post to this group, send email to SurroundSound@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to SurroundSound-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/SurroundSound
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