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Friday, December 3, 2010

[SurroundSound] Re: Success with WYWH 35th Anniversary Bluray?

I'm the one who tried uploading the NTSC ver to the 'noid. I don't
know why it won't let you download the .torrent file, I've tried
resubmitting it 3 times to no avail. Maybe it will work now that
they've changed to .me, I'll try to repost yet again.

On Dec 3, 9:52 am, Rob Sulzinger <rsulzin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hate to be a pest, but the NTSC version on the 'noid is still broken, and has
> been for over a week.
> Is there a way someone can fix it, or re-up it?
>
> thanks
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Analogue_Ghost <blake_the_p...@hotmail.com>
> To: SurroundSound <surroundsound@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 6:15:15 PM
> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: Success with WYWH 35th Anniversary Bluray?
>
> Hi all,
>
> New to the group although I've been reading for a while. First, I
> just
> want to thank grill for all of his hard work pulling this project
> together and really look forward to trying out the new NTSC-friendly
> version on my set top players. I managed to get the PAL version off
> of
> the 'noid a while ago but couldn't play it on my two set top players
> or in my blu-ray software so I found a long-form workaround for
> myself, but I kept hoping there'd be a version that would work for
> me.
> Sounds like it's here now.
>
> Anyway, awesome work!
>
> On Nov 29, 1:49 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I wouldn't know much about other BD players since I've
> > been focused on acquiring a BDP-83/93 for some time and haven't done
> > much research on other players.  Getting a player without Cinavia is a
> > real concern however. I'm glad to hear the BDP-93 doesn't have it. My
> > understanding is that new players must have Cinavia if they begin
> > production in 2011. I wonder if that means the new BDP-95 will be in
> > that category.
>
> > The 93 plays every disc I've thrown at it so far. BD-R, BD-RE DL, DVD
> > +RW, DVD+R DL, and of course retail BD, SACD & DVD-A.
>
> > I previously had a Denon that didn't play watermarked discs so it's
> > nice to have that ability, and I can now play DSD from SACD to my
> > Denon AVR.
>
> > On Nov 29, 11:23 am, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > Good news ;-) Currently, I have some money for an LG BD-560 or a
> > > similar BD player. Can you recommend other players without Cinavia at
> > > this price (~125 €)?
>
> > > On nov. 29, 15:49, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I made an interesting find. I just got my pre-release Oppo BDP-93 and
> > > > I'm running it through it's paces. I pop in the original WYWH that I
> > > > still had on a disc and it plays perfectly. So, it plays both the
> > > > original and the "NTSC" version. My PS3 will only play the "NTSC"
> > > > version.
>
> > > > On Nov 28, 2:45 pm, ArnoldLayne <arnoldlayn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > So, I got hold of the "NTSC" BD-R ISO this weekend and it runs
> > > > > flawlessly on my standalone player. I can assure you that not only
> > > > > does it work like charm, the authoring is awesome.
>
> > > > > On 24 nov, 05:10, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Thanks a bunch grill! I've also gotten this newer version to work.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 19, 10:53 am, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The NTSC version of the compilation is added to my Hub share.
>
> > > > > > > On nov. 18, 21:31, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Ok, I'll unleash it this week-end.
>
> > > > > > > > On nov. 18, 20:38, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > grill-
> > > > > > > > > I"m interested in this also. I didn't realize you had completed
> >the
> > > > > > > > > alternate version. The test disc played fine for me.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 1:11 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > MrM, I did the the "NTSC" version of the entire compilation as
> >an iso
> > > > > > > > > > image about a month ago. However, since then I haven't got any
> >request
> > > > > > > > > > to share it. The iso is still on my off-line disk and I'll look
> >for or
> > > > > > > > > > create some disk space on one of my on-line drives. Pending my
> >"drive"-
> > > > > > > > > > keeping please check my test disc (Test/WYWH/NTSC) in my Hub
> >share if
> > > > > > > > > > it is playing fine on your gear.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On nov. 18, 05:56, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > grill,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > did you still plan to do a "usa" region version of this BRD?
> >or did I miss
> > > > > > > > > > > something in the thread?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > interestingly, using MPC-HD, I can open some of the video,
> >but it is upside
> > > > > > > > > > > down and backwards! the audio, however, comes through in
> >glorious HD. too
> > > > > > > > > > > bad i can't figure out which mix I'm listening to...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > cheers,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > -MrM
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:27 PM, QTS
> ><katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > No, my problem is different. I also have the audio go
> >through optical
> > > > > > > > > > > > to my receiver. My issue is that the PS3 see's the test
> >disk as a
> > > > > > > > > > > > "data disk" and allows me to browse the folder structure of
> >the dvd,
> > > > > > > > > > > > rather than launching like any old movie would.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I also didn't buy any blank Bluray discs today. The store I
> >went to
> > > > > > > > > > > > only had one brand, and the price was over $18 for 3. Too
> >steep for
> > > > > > > > > > > > me, I'll hopefully pick up some soon for cheaper and burn
> >another
> > > > > > > > > > > > test.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 5:03 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This is waht I understood too. I am wondering if the user
> >that is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > having troubles with the disc on PS3 has an older player
> >and is not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > streaming the data to a compatible decoder? The way I
> >read PS3 specs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it plays just about anything. I do not have one and all
> >my playback
> > > > > > > > > > > > > goes fiber stream to my decoder so I never encounter any
> >issues with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the exception of improper region coding which my US made
> >player frowns
> > > > > > > > > > > > > upon.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 6:05 pm, Stephen Disney
> ><sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > While a ps3 doesn't except the standard of DVD-A, it
> >does accept
> > > > > > > > > > > > bluray, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the WYWH collection is bluray (there is no distinction
> >anymore between
> > > > > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > audio vs video disc... its all bluray).  Interesting
> >TrueHD is MLP in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > disguise so any blu player COULD play DVD-A or MLP if
> >liscensing or
> > > > > > > > > > > > firmware
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > allowed...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > S
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM, scolumbo
> ><sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, that quote is old. DTS-HD MA decoding on the
> >PS3 was included
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with a firmware update some time ago.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 5:29 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not the issue. The PS3 can decode DTS-HD MA
> >and TrueHD and
> > > > > > > > > > > > send
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it as PCM, it just can't bitstream it to a receiver
> >for decoding in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the receiver. Virtually every movie blu-ray disc
> >has one or the
> > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of these codecs which the PS3 decodes as PCM. No
> >different with a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > music blu-ray disc. For instance, I have The Last
> >Waltz &
> > > > > > > > > > > > Anesthetize
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BD's both of which have DTS-HD MA.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 4:58 pm, Brian Treml
> ><britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might be the answer to the PS3 question;
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The hdmi chip on the PS3 cannot bitstream the
> >new high def
> > > > > > > > > > > > codecs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like TrueHD and DTS-HD/MA. You have to have to
> >PS3 decode it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internally and while it still cannot do DTS-HD/MA
> >a firmware
> > > > > > > > > > > > update
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for it is coming. So for right now you can enjoy
> >TrueHD and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uncompressed PCM with your PS3 by setting it to
> >LPCM. So if you
> > > > > > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wanting for the TrueHD or DTS-HD light on your
> >receiver to light
> > > > > > > > > > > > up,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry to say it will never happen as long as you
> >have the PS3. "
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 1:41 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu>
> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both the entire compilation and the test disc
> >are AVCHD/Blu-ray
> > > > > > > > > > > > discs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with AVCHD/BR file structure. The audio is
> >DTS-HD MA which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compatible with BR and HDDVD. The test disc
> >fits SL DVD (aka
> > > > > > > > > > > > BD5).
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On okt. 10, 19:33, Brian Treml
> ><britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe Grill could respond to this. Is the
> >entire disc BDA or
> > > > > > > > > > > > Blue
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menu with DVD-A audio data files?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 11:45 am, scolumbo
> ><sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're correct that PS3's don't play DVD-A.
> >I believe it's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS3's don't decode MLP since Sony has never
> >supported DVD-A
> > > > > > > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > competing format to SACD.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, now I'm confused - why would you
> >say the WYWH 35th
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anniversary Compilation is a DVD-A, not a
> >Blu-ray?  I
> > > > > > > > > > > > thought it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set of m2ts files burned
>
> ...
>
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