New to the group although I've been reading for a while. First, I just
want to thank grill for all of his hard work pulling this project
together and really look forward to trying out the new NTSC-friendly
version on my set top players. I managed to get the PAL version off of
the 'noid a while ago but couldn't play it on my two set top players
or in my blu-ray software so I found a long-form workaround for
myself, but I kept hoping there'd be a version that would work for me.
Sounds like it's here now.
Anyway, awesome work!
On Nov 18, 12:31 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
> Ok, I'll unleash it this week-end.
>
> On nov. 18, 20:38, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> > grill-
> > I"m interested in this also. I didn't realize you had completed the
> > alternate version. The test disc played fine for me.
>
> > On Nov 18, 1:11 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > MrM, I did the the "NTSC" version of the entire compilation as an iso
> > > image about a month ago. However, since then I haven't got any request
> > > to share it. The iso is still on my off-line disk and I'll look for or
> > > create some disk space on one of my on-line drives. Pending my "drive"-
> > > keeping please check my test disc (Test/WYWH/NTSC) in my Hub share if
> > > it is playing fine on your gear.
>
> > > On nov. 18, 05:56, MrMalice <MrMalic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > grill,
>
> > > > did you still plan to do a "usa" region version of this BRD? or did I miss
> > > > something in the thread?
>
> > > > interestingly, using MPC-HD, I can open some of the video, but it is upside
> > > > down and backwards! the audio, however, comes through in glorious HD. too
> > > > bad i can't figure out which mix I'm listening to...
>
> > > > cheers,
>
> > > > -MrM
>
> > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:27 PM, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > No, my problem is different. I also have the audio go through optical
> > > > > to my receiver. My issue is that the PS3 see's the test disk as a
> > > > > "data disk" and allows me to browse the folder structure of the dvd,
> > > > > rather than launching like any old movie would.
>
> > > > > I also didn't buy any blank Bluray discs today. The store I went to
> > > > > only had one brand, and the price was over $18 for 3. Too steep for
> > > > > me, I'll hopefully pick up some soon for cheaper and burn another
> > > > > test.
>
> > > > > On Oct 10, 5:03 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > This is waht I understood too. I am wondering if the user that is
> > > > > > having troubles with the disc on PS3 has an older player and is not
> > > > > > streaming the data to a compatible decoder? The way I read PS3 specs
> > > > > > it plays just about anything. I do not have one and all my playback
> > > > > > goes fiber stream to my decoder so I never encounter any issues with
> > > > > > the exception of improper region coding which my US made player frowns
> > > > > > upon.
>
> > > > > > On Oct 10, 6:05 pm, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > While a ps3 doesn't except the standard of DVD-A, it does accept
> > > > > bluray, and
> > > > > > > the WYWH collection is bluray (there is no distinction anymore between
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > audio vs video disc... its all bluray). Interesting TrueHD is MLP in
> > > > > > > disguise so any blu player COULD play DVD-A or MLP if liscensing or
> > > > > firmware
> > > > > > > allowed...
> > > > > > > S
>
> > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Also, that quote is old. DTS-HD MA decoding on the PS3 was included
> > > > > > > > with a firmware update some time ago.
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 5:29 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > That's not the issue. The PS3 can decode DTS-HD MA and TrueHD and
> > > > > send
> > > > > > > > > it as PCM, it just can't bitstream it to a receiver for decoding in
> > > > > > > > > the receiver. Virtually every movie blu-ray disc has one or the
> > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > of these codecs which the PS3 decodes as PCM. No different with a
> > > > > > > > > music blu-ray disc. For instance, I have The Last Waltz &
> > > > > Anesthetize
> > > > > > > > > BD's both of which have DTS-HD MA.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 4:58 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > This might be the answer to the PS3 question;
>
> > > > > > > > > > "The hdmi chip on the PS3 cannot bitstream the new high def
> > > > > codecs
> > > > > > > > > > like TrueHD and DTS-HD/MA. You have to have to PS3 decode it
> > > > > > > > > > internally and while it still cannot do DTS-HD/MA a firmware
> > > > > update
> > > > > > > > > > for it is coming. So for right now you can enjoy TrueHD and
> > > > > > > > > > Uncompressed PCM with your PS3 by setting it to LPCM. So if you
> > > > > were
> > > > > > > > > > wanting for the TrueHD or DTS-HD light on your receiver to light
> > > > > up,
> > > > > > > > > > sorry to say it will never happen as long as you have the PS3. "
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 1:41 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Both the entire compilation and the test disc are AVCHD/Blu-ray
> > > > > discs
> > > > > > > > > > > with AVCHD/BR file structure. The audio is DTS-HD MA which is
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > > > > > compatible with BR and HDDVD. The test disc fits SL DVD (aka
> > > > > BD5).
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On okt. 10, 19:33, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe Grill could respond to this. Is the entire disc BDA or
> > > > > Blue
> > > > > > > > Ray
> > > > > > > > > > > > menu with DVD-A audio data files?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 11:45 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You're correct that PS3's don't play DVD-A. I believe it's
> > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > > > > > > PS3's don't decode MLP since Sony has never supported DVD-A
> > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > competing format to SACD.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > However, now I'm confused - why would you say the WYWH 35th
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Anniversary Compilation is a DVD-A, not a Blu-ray? I
> > > > > thought it
> > > > > > > > was a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > set of m2ts files burned as a BDA. PS3's will play m2ts
> > > > > files.
> > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > > > instance, I play the Tom Petty Live Anthology burned as a
> > > > > BDA
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (containing m2ts files) just fine.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 11:41 am, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:> I
> > > > > > > > am not positive on this, but knowing Sony and knowing none of their
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > home audio/video equipment plays any DVD-A material, and
> > > > > > > > knowing the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS3 is a Sony product, it stands to reason that the PS3
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > not play
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a DVD-A disc which is what the WYWH 35th Anni disc is.
> > > > > Correct
> > > > > > > > me Mr.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disney if I am wrong about this ;)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 9:48 pm, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay either I may be doing something wrong when
> > > > > burning, or
> > > > > > > > my PS3 is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not cooperating. I burned the ISO to a DVD-R using
> > > > > ImgBurn.
> > > > > > > > When I put
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it in the drive, the PS3 recognizes it as a "Data Disc"
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > when I try
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to play it, instead of loading it up like it would a
> > > > > normal
> > > > > > > > movie, it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gives me a sub-menu (still in the PS3 software) of the
> > > > > discs
> > > > > > > > folder
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > structure to browse through.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 4:28 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try DVDRW, it may work too.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On okt. 10, 01:26, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm out of bluray disks, gonna pick some up from
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > store tomorrow,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and hopefully I can report back positively as well.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2:13 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WYWH Test disc works!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm in USA so in must be a region coding issue as
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > > surmised.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 12:16 pm, Brian Treml <
> > > > > britre...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I was refering to. Regardless of
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > > terms are used to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > describe things there is as a fact region
> > > > > coding and
> > > > > > > > is as a fact an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inability of certain players in certain regions
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > play certain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > encoded formats. So in carrying thru with with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Mr. Disney's quote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the menu is encoded in a certain format and the
> > > > > > > > player says I can't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > load this regardless of what the remainder of
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > > disc content is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > period. Good work as always Grill!!! I believe
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > > have solved this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 6:19 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Stephen for the info. Here's below the
> > > > > end
> > > > > > > > part of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiAVCHD log of my test authoring. It's
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > > logged that that NTSC
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menus and NTSC welcome screen were created:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Preparing authoring information...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Creating NTSC top menu.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Setting pop-up menu...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up
> > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > [1080p]...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] ***
>
> ...
>
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