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Monday, March 30, 2015

RE: [SurroundSound] Re: Modern Day Surround Sound?!

Not wanting to further stir up discourse here, but you guys really can't keep on topic can you? The original question was about means to provide surround sound to the general populace, but it seems to be devolving into asides that are entirely irrelevant to that question, just saying, BTW I still say Dolby Digital as it is a de facto standard but DTS is not (yes most of us prefer DTS).

 

From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
Sent: 30 March 2015 20:41
To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Modern Day Surround Sound?!

 

A very worthwhile 2 cents worth i feel.

 

The issue over the players still needs to be sorted and it will be interesting to watch what happens. There's one thing for certain, there's no single  option that will keep every happy.

 

Now the point of why quad and not 5.1

 

I can only speak from a personal point of view but i don't believe the centre channel belongs in music. Often it's a smaller speaker and tends not to blend in with the general sound-scape, often making you aware of it's presence.

 

Plus, again personally, neither the centre channel nor sub woofer has any place in ambisonics, which i do listen to quite a bit.

 

And on the issue of sub-woofers in surround systems, for it to sound correct i've always though that there should be a sub on the rears too. It sounds un-balanced with just one on the fronts.

 

On a certain point I have to agree with OxfordDickie : On QQ they sure have an attitude towards anything that is not quad. Even on 5.1 I got some comments . Must mention this was years ago, but for me enough not to seek any help I might need at that place ! And the strong opinion of some on QQ about  upmixes  was just rude.

I'm not saying QQ is worthless, but there are some figures there you better avoid !

On the subject : The future is Bluray ! Nowadays DVD(A) players are common, but slowly dying out.

Especially DVDA and SACD are good formats, but they also need players that can handle them.

Normal DVD players don't have that problem, nowadays they can all play 5.1 AC3 or DTS.

For me personally I don't like the fact that I cannot stream an ISO from SACD or DVDA to my receiver.

BluRay has no problem !

When a receiver handles the modern formats like DTS HD MAS, Dolby True HD and FLAC in 5.1, you still cannot play SACD or DVDA in the highest quality without

a suitable player. I think hardware mediaplayers will replace a lot of DVD and even BluRay players, but they cannot replace (yet !!) the dedicated players for SACD and DVDA. (FWIW when I mention DVDA, I mean the Lossless audio on it in MLP, not the VIDEO_TS part with standard DTS !)

I stream from my PC to my mediaplayer and it can handle FLAC upto 24/192 in 5.1 !! I can also stream without a problem an ISO of a 50GB BluRay ;-)

BUT..... you cannot do that with SACD or DVDA.

 

When you're a mixer, I wonder why quad and not 5.1 !? 5.1 is found more and more in houses than 4.0 !

 

AFAIK there are no portable players that do 5.1 (or 4.0) and the surround headphones don't deliver the quallity you want.......

 

just my 2 cents !

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