Just in deep sleep lol
From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of August Bleed
Sent: 03 November 2014 18:48
To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: convert flac to mac...
And here we thought the group was dead a week ago
Those who collect FLAC tracks from CD and other lossless sources normally include some form of provenance, such as an Accurip file and an audiochecker log, but this is not always the case. Programmes such as AuCDtect are quite good at checking for lossless provenance, although some genuine CD's fail and are marked as lossy. I've not seen an MP3 come up as lossless though - even if in a FLAC container, using this tool.
From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mgraves@mstvp.com
Sent: 03 November 2014 03:02
To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: convert flac to mac...
The original question was about playing FLAC files on a Mac. That's very clearly possible without resorting to converting the files to something lossy. Even Apple offers VOX as a solution.
To your point...we are agreed. The provenance of any file may be called into question.
Nonetheless, it is entirely possible to have FLACs that are from uncompressed sources.
The thing about technology is that achieving optimal results always hinge upon this sort of attention to detail. Call it picking-nits if you like. I prefer to think of it as caring enough to get it right.
Michael
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Subject: Re: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: convert flac to mac...
From: "realafrica" <paul.gambia@gmail.com>
Date: 11/2/14 8:12 pm
To: surroundsound@googlegroups.comMichael mate,
I have never had my nits so pecked to death. :)
You can believe all xiph.org have to say about anything, if you like, but it will give you no end of grief in the end.
OK flac is a 'codec'.
All I'm trying to get across here is that anything can be converted into a flac and therefore it is very dangerous to believe any flac file is 'lossless' as in not from a lossy source.
That is all, nothing more and nothing less.
I will not be engaging in any further nit picking with you, I have a life :)
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Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Re: convert flac to mac...
From: "realafrica" <paul.gambia@gmail.com>
Date: 11/2/14 11:51 am
To: surroundsound@googlegroups.comOK let's not get too nit-picky about semantics. Any flac file is not necessarily a lossless file, as it might have an empty3 source which is severely lossy.
Flac is a lossless audio carrier in that whatever one puts inside it does not suffer loss on replay, but if it is an empty3 inside then one has to be very cautious about calling the flac file lossless!
I believe that you are mistaken with respect to FLAC. FLAC is a codec. Xiph.org, the originator of the format, seems to be quite clear about this. There are installables that reflect this reality. Also a formal specification. FLAC encoding and decoding is, by definition, always lossless.
I think that you are confusing FLAC with OGG, also from Xiph.org. I believe that OGG is a container often used in conjunction with the Opus, Vorbis (audio) and Theora (video) codecs.
On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:56:13 PM UTC, realafrica wrote:Flac is NOT inherently lossless it is merely a carrier for audio and some people convert empty3 to flac.
On Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:48:17 PM UTC, Michael Graves wrote:FLAC being lossless converting to a lossy format seems a bit defeatist. There are ways to play FLACs on a Mac, even from within iTunes.
Further, FLAC is open source. There are likely resources that allow it's use within DAWs if desired.
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Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: convert flac to mac...
From: "Gish Bart" <bartcomeon@gmail.com>
Date: 11/2/14 7:11 am
To: surroundsound@googlegroups.comIf you want to play FLAC on Mac, you'd better to convert FLAC to MP3, AAC, AC3, M4A, AIFF, etc.
Here is a guide to help you do this job at: http://www.faasoft.com/articles/flac-to-mp3.html
This guide applies to:
1. Convert FLAC to MP3, WAV, AAC, AC3, DTS, AU, AIFF, and etc;
2. Convert other audio formats to FLAC;
3. Extract audio from video files.--
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