All in all, by far the best option for using digital media on an Oppo 93/95 is ISO playback. There is no real alternative for DVD-A ISO's other than ripping tracks to FLAC or WAV in which case you lose menus, bonus materials, and most importantly, gapless playback that you get from the DVD-A ISO. BD and DVD-V alternatives are all compromises compared to ISO playback. It's the reason the Oppo's with firmware that supports ISO playback are highly valued. Of course, you can always just play everything from a disc, which the Oppo excels at, but that's so 20th Century,
On Tuesday, June 5, 2012 1:52:18 PM UTC-4, Blee...@yahoo.com wrote:
It's the iso on HDD that they disabled and I think that is just for DVD-As if I recall. If I remember correctly they still have support for AVCHD so there is an extra step involved but one could author their DVD-As as AVCHDs and have them play from the HDD. That's one workaround. I still believe you can play the VOB files from TS (not from the Audio DVD-A) if it no longer plays DVD-V isos. There will be a pause btw tracks and no menu. Then again you can always use DVD extractor to get the multichannel files from the iso and convert to flac or wav. I've had some problems with the software on certain discs getting the correct stream (some just use DTS instead of DTS 24/96 for example) so it's not a method I use often. It's actually very convenient to not have to switch disc after disc--but not the end of the world.--On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:36 AM, shnicks <bowein@aol.com> wrote:Thanks to all for your input and insights. The Oppo 93 was always my
leading candidate and based on these discussions this will be the
direction I go. My concern was always that using older firmware would
dismiss various bug fixes and other improvements that come with the
updates. It is my understanding that the 93/95 will still play the ISO
files when burned to a disc. The new firmware only prevents direct
playback of the ISO files.
> > *From:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
On Jun 4, 6:07 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Oppo 93/95 players with certain firmware installed, will play DVD-A,
> DVD-V and Blu-ray ISO files from an attached hard drive. They will not
> stream ISO's over a network. This was an undocumented feature that was
> added through a firmware update, and then removed last January when certain
> studios, cough*FOX*cough, objected due to a supposed association of ISO's
> with piracy. Evidently, the ability to play 3D Blu-ray ISO's is what
> really caused the consternation by the studios. Since the Oppo universal
> players are first and foremost disc players that must have Blu-ray
> licensing by the Blu-ray Disc Association, the threat by the studios forced
> Oppo to remove this undocumented feature in a firmware update. Many owners
> of the Oppo 93/95 haven't updated their firmware to maintain the ability to
> play ISO's. Note, the Oppo's don't play SACD ISO's directly, they must be
> burned to a DVD-R disc, or they can be streamed using Foobar and the SACD
> plug-in, or the DSF/DFF files converted to FLAC. The Oppo 93/95 players can
> play many other types of digital media files that previous Oppo models
> can't, but it's ISO playback that make it unique for a universal disc
> player.
>
> The Dune is a different animal altogether, in that it is primarily a media
> streamer. It will stream ISO's over a network, although evidently not 3D
> Blu-ray or DVD-A ISO's. However, the Dune, Popcorn Hour, and other
> networked media streamers will stream Blu-ray and DVD-V ISO's.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2012 7:20:49 AM UTC-4, PeterC wrote:
>
> > Can I ask a really dumb question to the group, namely what do you mean by
> > 'ISO playback'?
>
> > I assume you mean a .ISO file that has the been burnt using ImgBurn or
> > similar to create a DVD-Audio or SACD-R?
>
> > I'm confused because to me 'ISO-playback' can mean:
>
> > (i) burning an ISO image to disc as above
>
> > (ii) playing a .ISO file from a data disc
>
> > (iii) playing a .ISO file over a network
>
> > (iv) playing an ISO file structure over a network i.e. the
> > contents of an \AUDIO_TS folder in the case of a DVD-Audio or \VIDEO_TS in
> > the case of a DVD-Video.
>
> > A few years ago I tried all these with limited success with Oppo DV-980H,
> > Helios X-5000, Xbox 360 and another 100BaseT/Wi-Fi enabled DVD player I
> > can't even recall the name of. All fell down at multiple points in the GUI
> > when trying to access 10,000+ songs from network storage. I recall the Xbox
> > giving a single alphabetical list of either 1,000 albums or maybe even
> > 10,000 tracks. Unusable either way. I would always end up listening to the
> > 'A's….
>
> > The only one I still have is the Oppo DV-980H. This plays commercial SACD
> > and DVD-Audio as well as ones I have burnt myself. Obviously it has no
> > Blu-Ray playback. It could be a very cheap option to get one of these
> > second-hand for SACD-R playback.
>
> > P.
>
> > surroundsound@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *scolumbo
> > *Sent:* 04 June 2012 01:30
> > *To:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Best Universal Player With ISO Support
>
> > I don't own one, but I've been told the Dune doesn't play DVD-A ISO's
> > (i.e. there's no MLP decoder). If that's true, it's a huge disadvantage vs.
> > an Oppo 93/95 with firmware that still has ISO playback.
>
> > There is rumored to be a firmware hack that will restore ISO playback on
> > an Oppo that has been updated with new firmware. I haven't investigated
> > since my Oppo still plays ISO's.
>
> > On Sunday, June 3, 2012 2:02:19 PM UTC-4, Blee...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > There was a player called the Dune (i think) that was able to do most disc
> > formats and iso's. I don't know what their current situation is but you
> > may google that and see if it is another option.
>
> > > >http://groups.google.com/> > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:25 AM, flytomars <flytom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > AFAIK, you cannot downgrade to previous firmware version.
> > However, another thing you can try -
> > I bought the Nuforce edition of the oppo bdp93 (slightly upgraded),
> > just as the new firmware was released, and it didnt have the previous
> > version but even an earlier one-
> > So my guess is the Nuforce stock is slightly older as it undergoes
> > other upgrades,
> > Chances are you can get a new Nuforce with the older firmware
> > (you can ask before you buy, this is what I did)
>
> > On Jun 3, 9:38 am, mircea raibulet <mraibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > OPPO bdp 93 or 95,till a few months ago HAD iso support.If you,re lucky
> > > you'll find one!
> > > If not you can try a "downgrade' to the earlyer firmware....
> > > M
>
> > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:56 AM, shnicks <bow...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > Looking for a bit of guidance... I'm in the market for a new universal
> > > > player but I need to get one that supports ISO file playback. Thanks
> > > > in advance for your thoughts.
>
> > > > Shnicks
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