On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:36 AM, shnicks <bowein@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks to all for your input and insights. The Oppo 93 was always my
leading candidate and based on these discussions this will be the
direction I go. My concern was always that using older firmware would
dismiss various bug fixes and other improvements that come with the
updates. It is my understanding that the 93/95 will still play the ISO
files when burned to a disc. The new firmware only prevents direct
playback of the ISO files.
> > *From:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
On Jun 4, 6:07 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Oppo 93/95 players with certain firmware installed, will play DVD-A,
> DVD-V and Blu-ray ISO files from an attached hard drive. They will not
> stream ISO's over a network. This was an undocumented feature that was
> added through a firmware update, and then removed last January when certain
> studios, cough*FOX*cough, objected due to a supposed association of ISO's
> with piracy. Evidently, the ability to play 3D Blu-ray ISO's is what
> really caused the consternation by the studios. Since the Oppo universal
> players are first and foremost disc players that must have Blu-ray
> licensing by the Blu-ray Disc Association, the threat by the studios forced
> Oppo to remove this undocumented feature in a firmware update. Many owners
> of the Oppo 93/95 haven't updated their firmware to maintain the ability to
> play ISO's. Note, the Oppo's don't play SACD ISO's directly, they must be
> burned to a DVD-R disc, or they can be streamed using Foobar and the SACD
> plug-in, or the DSF/DFF files converted to FLAC. The Oppo 93/95 players can
> play many other types of digital media files that previous Oppo models
> can't, but it's ISO playback that make it unique for a universal disc
> player.
>
> The Dune is a different animal altogether, in that it is primarily a media
> streamer. It will stream ISO's over a network, although evidently not 3D
> Blu-ray or DVD-A ISO's. However, the Dune, Popcorn Hour, and other
> networked media streamers will stream Blu-ray and DVD-V ISO's.
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 4, 2012 7:20:49 AM UTC-4, PeterC wrote:
>
> > Can I ask a really dumb question to the group, namely what do you mean by
> > 'ISO playback'?
>
> > I assume you mean a .ISO file that has the been burnt using ImgBurn or
> > similar to create a DVD-Audio or SACD-R?
>
> > I'm confused because to me 'ISO-playback' can mean:
>
> > (i) burning an ISO image to disc as above
>
> > (ii) playing a .ISO file from a data disc
>
> > (iii) playing a .ISO file over a network
>
> > (iv) playing an ISO file structure over a network i.e. the
> > contents of an \AUDIO_TS folder in the case of a DVD-Audio or \VIDEO_TS in
> > the case of a DVD-Video.
>
> > A few years ago I tried all these with limited success with Oppo DV-980H,
> > Helios X-5000, Xbox 360 and another 100BaseT/Wi-Fi enabled DVD player I
> > can't even recall the name of. All fell down at multiple points in the GUI
> > when trying to access 10,000+ songs from network storage. I recall the Xbox
> > giving a single alphabetical list of either 1,000 albums or maybe even
> > 10,000 tracks. Unusable either way. I would always end up listening to the
> > 'A's….
>
> > The only one I still have is the Oppo DV-980H. This plays commercial SACD
> > and DVD-Audio as well as ones I have burnt myself. Obviously it has no
> > Blu-Ray playback. It could be a very cheap option to get one of these
> > second-hand for SACD-R playback.
>
> > P.
>
> > surroundsound@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *scolumbo
> > *Sent:* 04 June 2012 01:30
> > *To:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [SurroundSound] Re: Best Universal Player With ISO Support
>
> > I don't own one, but I've been told the Dune doesn't play DVD-A ISO's
> > (i.e. there's no MLP decoder). If that's true, it's a huge disadvantage vs.
> > an Oppo 93/95 with firmware that still has ISO playback.
>
> > There is rumored to be a firmware hack that will restore ISO playback on
> > an Oppo that has been updated with new firmware. I haven't investigated
> > since my Oppo still plays ISO's.
>
> > On Sunday, June 3, 2012 2:02:19 PM UTC-4, Blee...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > There was a player called the Dune (i think) that was able to do most disc
> > formats and iso's. I don't know what their current situation is but you
> > may google that and see if it is another option.
>
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/SurroundSound-Hide quoted text -> > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:25 AM, flytomars <flytom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > AFAIK, you cannot downgrade to previous firmware version.
> > However, another thing you can try -
> > I bought the Nuforce edition of the oppo bdp93 (slightly upgraded),
> > just as the new firmware was released, and it didnt have the previous
> > version but even an earlier one-
> > So my guess is the Nuforce stock is slightly older as it undergoes
> > other upgrades,
> > Chances are you can get a new Nuforce with the older firmware
> > (you can ask before you buy, this is what I did)
>
> > On Jun 3, 9:38 am, mircea raibulet <mraibu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > OPPO bdp 93 or 95,till a few months ago HAD iso support.If you,re lucky
> > > you'll find one!
> > > If not you can try a "downgrade' to the earlyer firmware....
> > > M
>
> > > On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:56 AM, shnicks <bow...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > Looking for a bit of guidance... I'm in the market for a new universal
> > > > player but I need to get one that supports ISO file playback. Thanks
> > > > in advance for your thoughts.
>
> > > > Shnicks
>
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