I really don't understand why you want to make dff or DSF or DSDiFF
files from the iso to just play in foobar or JRMC.
I don't know about the latter, but as foobar plays the iso fine and
will load all the tracks into the player then why convert the iso, to
whatever, at all?
Just use the iso!
I imagine you want to get JRMC to play these files, but it will not
play SACD-R iso?
Does JRMC play DFFs or any kind of DSD file?
If yes, then this is only useful to you IF you have a DSD capable DAC
either in your receiver or as an External DAC.
Without a DSD capable DAC you are wasting your time with DFFs, you
might just as well convert the iso to flac and play those via JRMC.
On Apr 22, 2:53 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yes no such thing as .dsd. the dff and dsf are on the iso proper so yes
> the software would have to read both by nature although individual playback
> of dff or dsf on standalone sacd players is elusive. Yes you are correct
> it is just extracting info from the iso to tag ect. It also allows for
> direct dsd playback with proper equipment which 99.999999 percent of us do
> not have.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Noreltny-gmail <norel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I don't know what I was doing wrong before, but I am able to import and
> > play the DSF (both stereo and multichannel) with FRMC17 and foobar2000. My
> > mistake earlier, was that I thought I needed to convert the DSF or DFF
> > files to DSD. There is no such thing as a file with a DSD extension.
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but what the utility is really doing is converting
> > the tracks from the ISO into DSD files and letting me chose either DFF or
> > DSF. With the DSF being more appealing because of tagging, etc.****
>
> > ** **
>
> > Again, thanks for your help.****
>
> > ** **
>
> > *From:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > surroundsound@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *August Bleed
> > *Sent:* Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:18 PM
>
> > *To:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [SurroundSound] Convert SACD ISO to individual DSD tracks?*
> > ***
>
> > ** **
>
> > DFF files are also DSD. One is a compression scheme so they could fit 5.1
> > material, stereo DSD, and CD layer on the same disc. The other is
> > uncompressed DSD. They use this for SHM-SACDs that are stereo and for the
> > stereo layer generally. The MC one I believe has better tagging and
> > support. You sound like you are generating the right files. It does give
> > you a choice. Again it's really a matter of your hardware after you get
> > the files.****
>
> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:*
> > ***
>
> > dsf files are DSD. If you have a capable USB dac it will play natively.
> > Otherwise if you play it from software it will convert to PCM no MATTER
> > WHAT. You must burn the iso to a disc if you dont have a usb dac that is
> > dsd capable (there are a grand total of 2). But you got what you were
> > supposed to get. DSF files are DSD files. If you can't play them you
> > don't have a usb capable DAC. That's all. These are absolutely DSD files
> > you are creating.****
>
> > ** **
>
> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Noreltny-gmail <norel...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:****
>
> > Thanks for the info.****
>
> > ****
>
> > I've almost got it figured out, but not quite. I'm having trouble
> > converting the DSF files to DSD and I'd post a comment on their website,
> > but it won't currently let me post comments or replies. So, I'll ask here
> > in case someone in this group has experience with this.****
>
> > ****
>
> > Here's the link to the thread that August is referring to:****
>
> >http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/SACD-ripping-using-your-PS3...
> > ****
>
> > ****
>
> > Here's a link to the project page, which includes links to download the
> > utilities:****
>
> > Project home:http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/****
>
> > Download page:http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/downloads/list****
>
> > ****
>
> > I downloaded the file 'sacd_extract_0.3.6_WIN32.zip' and extracted it into
> > a folder that I named "sacdrip'. I copied my SACD ISO file into this
> > directory so it would be easier to work with from a command line prompt.**
> > **
>
> > ****
>
> > I couldn't find his PDF guide anywhere. If you have a link, I'd really
> > appreciate getting a copy. He does have a link to the instructions, which
> > are here:http://sacd-ripper.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/readme.****
>
> > ****
>
> > I'd use the BAT files, but they don't appear to be of any help in my
> > situation. I followed the instructions in the readme and just tried
> > extracting/converting from the command line. Here's the steps I followed:*
> > ***
>
> > ****
>
> > 1: From the start menu, I typed "CMD" into the command box (or whatever
> > it's called). This brings up the command window.****
>
> > 2. From the prompt in the command, I navigated to the "sacdrip" directory
> > where I extracted the file 'sacd_extract.exe'.****
>
> > 3. The instructions include a list of command options and a few examples.
> > I tried following the examples. First, here's the list of available options:
> > ****
>
> > ****
>
> > Usage: sacd_extract [options] [outfile]****
>
> > -2, --2ch-tracks : Export two channel tracks (default)***
> > *
>
> > -m, --mch-tracks : Export multi-channel tracks****
>
> > -e, --output-dsdiff-em : output as Philips DSDIFF (Edit Master)
> > file****
>
> > -p, --output-dsdiff : output as Philips DSDIFF file****
>
> > -s, --output-dsf : output as Sony DSF file****
>
> > -I, --output-iso : output as RAW ISO****
>
> > -c, --convert-dst : convert DST to DSD****
>
> > -C, --export-cue : Export a CUE Sheet****
>
> > -i, --input[=FILE] : set source and determine if "iso"
> > image,****
>
> > device or server (ex.
> > -i192.168.1.10:2002)****
>
> > -P, --print : display disc and track information****
>
> > ****
>
> > Help options:****
>
> > -?, --help : Show this help message****
>
> > --usage : Display brief usage message****
>
> > ****
>
> > Here's the usage example I tried:****
>
> > ****
>
> > Extract all stereo tracks to multiple DSDIFF files and convert all DST to DSD:****
>
> > ****
>
> > $ sacd_extract -2 -p -c -i"Foo_Bar_RIP.ISO"****
>
> > ****
>
> > So, after the command prompt, I typed: ****
>
> > ****
>
> > sacd_extract -2 –p –c –i"TAPESTRY.iso"****
>
> > ****
>
> > I ended up with a folder named "CAROLE KING – TAPESTRY" and 14 individual
> > files for each track. However, none of the files were converted to DSD
> > files. All have the extension DFF.****
>
> > ****
>
> > I read through the thread on Computer Audiophile and learned that if you
> > are extracting individual files for playback, it is better to extract to
> > DSF before converting to DSD. So, I tried this at the command line - ****
>
> > ****
>
> > sacd_extract -2 –s –c –I"TAPESTRY.iso"****
>
> > ****
>
> > This time, it created the same folder and generated a bunch of DSF files,
> > again without converting the DSF files to DSD.****
>
> > ****
>
> > I also tried using their usage examples to create multichannel DSD files.
> > Again, I was successful at extracting the individual tracks into files, but
> > I couldn't end up with the DSD files. The conversion step is just getting
> > ignored. I'm not getting any error messages, so the program seems to be
> > working. ****
>
> > ****
>
> > Any ideas???****
>
> > ****
>
> > Thanks****
>
> > ****
>
> > ****
>
> > *From:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > surroundsound@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *August Bleed
> > *Sent:* Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:25 PM
> > *To:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [SurroundSound] Convert SACD ISO to individual DSD tracks?*
> > ***
>
> > ****
>
> > Yes you should head over to computeraudiophile.com and check out their
> > thread ps3 SACD ripping part 2. Ted B is the guru of the forum and one of
> > the folks who was pioneering the work in this area (not the only one of
> > course). It's a long thread but essentially there is a small program that
> > runs on windows (and OS X I believe) as a .bat file and does just that. I
> > suggest checking out the thread and contacting that member. He has a PDF
> > guide he did himself and is happy to provide folks with the knowledge. He
> > will also point you to the tools if the forum doesn't already do that. Its
> > on sourceforge. Not difficult to find at all.****
>
> > On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Noreltny-gmail <norel...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:****
>
> > I have a few SACD ISO that play in foobar2000 and I would like to convert
> > them to individual tracks, preferably DSD files. Both my favorite players
> > J.River Media Center v17 and foobar2000 can play DSD files.****
>
> > ****
>
> > I usually use foobar to convert ISOs to individual tracks. With DVD-A ISO,
> > I use foobar's convert tool to losslessly convert the MLP to FLAC.
> > However, last time I tried, I couldn't convert the DSD ISO to FLAC. ****
>
> > ****
>
> > So, I was wondering, does anyone if there is a tool to convert the DSD ISO
> > to DSD files?****
>
> > ****
>
> > Does anyone know if it is now possible to convert the DSD ISO to FLAC?
> > Although, I'd prefer to keep these files as DSD, just in case there's some
> > future advantage in preserving this format.****
>
> > ****
>
> > Thanks in advance for your help.****
>
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