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On Apr 22, 2012, at 12:01 PM, realafrica <paul.gambia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Noreltny
> I really don't understand why you want to make dff or DSF or DSDiFF
> files from the iso to just play in foobar or JRMC.
> I don't know about the latter, but as foobar plays the iso fine and
> will load all the tracks into the player then why convert the iso, to
> whatever, at all?
> Just use the iso!
> I imagine you want to get JRMC to play these files, but it will not
> play SACD-R iso?
> Does JRMC play DFFs or any kind of DSD file?
> If yes, then this is only useful to you IF you have a DSD capable DAC
> either in your receiver or as an External DAC.
> Without a DSD capable DAC you are wasting your time with DFFs, you
> might just as well convert the iso to flac and play those via JRMC.
>
> On Apr 22, 2:53 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> yes no such thing as .dsd. the dff and dsf are on the iso proper so yes
>> the software would have to read both by nature although individual playback
>> of dff or dsf on standalone sacd players is elusive. Yes you are correct
>> it is just extracting info from the iso to tag ect. It also allows for
>> direct dsd playback with proper equipment which 99.999999 percent of us do
>> not have.
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>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Noreltny-gmail <norel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know what I was doing wrong before, but I am able to import and
>>> play the DSF (both stereo and multichannel) with FRMC17 and foobar2000. My
>>> mistake earlier, was that I thought I needed to convert the DSF or DFF
>>> files to DSD. There is no such thing as a file with a DSD extension.
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but what the utility is really doing is converting
>>> the tracks from the ISO into DSD files and letting me chose either DFF or
>>> DSF. With the DSF being more appealing because of tagging, etc.****
>>
>>> ** **
>>
>>> Again, thanks for your help.****
>>
>>> ** **
>>
>>> *From:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> surroundsound@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *August Bleed
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:18 PM
>>
>>> *To:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [SurroundSound] Convert SACD ISO to individual DSD tracks?*
>>> ***
>>
>>> ** **
>>
>>> DFF files are also DSD. One is a compression scheme so they could fit 5.1
>>> material, stereo DSD, and CD layer on the same disc. The other is
>>> uncompressed DSD. They use this for SHM-SACDs that are stereo and for the
>>> stereo layer generally. The MC one I believe has better tagging and
>>> support. You sound like you are generating the right files. It does give
>>> you a choice. Again it's really a matter of your hardware after you get
>>> the files.****
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 3:13 PM, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:*
>>> ***
>>
>>> dsf files are DSD. If you have a capable USB dac it will play natively.
>>> Otherwise if you play it from software it will convert to PCM no MATTER
>>> WHAT. You must burn the iso to a disc if you dont have a usb dac that is
>>> dsd capable (there are a grand total of 2). But you got what you were
>>> supposed to get. DSF files are DSD files. If you can't play them you
>>> don't have a usb capable DAC. That's all. These are absolutely DSD files
>>> you are creating.****
>>
>>> ** **
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Noreltny-gmail <norel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:****
>>
>>> Thanks for the info.****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I've almost got it figured out, but not quite. I'm having trouble
>>> converting the DSF files to DSD and I'd post a comment on their website,
>>> but it won't currently let me post comments or replies. So, I'll ask here
>>> in case someone in this group has experience with this.****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Here's the link to the thread that August is referring to:****
>>
>>> http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/SACD-ripping-using-your-PS3...
>>> ****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Here's a link to the project page, which includes links to download the
>>> utilities:****
>>
>>> Project home:http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/****
>>
>>> Download page:http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/downloads/list****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I downloaded the file 'sacd_extract_0.3.6_WIN32.zip' and extracted it into
>>> a folder that I named "sacdrip'. I copied my SACD ISO file into this
>>> directory so it would be easier to work with from a command line prompt.**
>>> **
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I couldn't find his PDF guide anywhere. If you have a link, I'd really
>>> appreciate getting a copy. He does have a link to the instructions, which
>>> are here:http://sacd-ripper.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/readme.****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I'd use the BAT files, but they don't appear to be of any help in my
>>> situation. I followed the instructions in the readme and just tried
>>> extracting/converting from the command line. Here's the steps I followed:*
>>> ***
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> 1: From the start menu, I typed "CMD" into the command box (or whatever
>>> it's called). This brings up the command window.****
>>
>>> 2. From the prompt in the command, I navigated to the "sacdrip" directory
>>> where I extracted the file 'sacd_extract.exe'.****
>>
>>> 3. The instructions include a list of command options and a few examples.
>>> I tried following the examples. First, here's the list of available options:
>>> ****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Usage: sacd_extract [options] [outfile]****
>>
>>> -2, --2ch-tracks : Export two channel tracks (default)***
>>> *
>>
>>> -m, --mch-tracks : Export multi-channel tracks****
>>
>>> -e, --output-dsdiff-em : output as Philips DSDIFF (Edit Master)
>>> file****
>>
>>> -p, --output-dsdiff : output as Philips DSDIFF file****
>>
>>> -s, --output-dsf : output as Sony DSF file****
>>
>>> -I, --output-iso : output as RAW ISO****
>>
>>> -c, --convert-dst : convert DST to DSD****
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>>> -C, --export-cue : Export a CUE Sheet****
>>
>>> -i, --input[=FILE] : set source and determine if "iso"
>>> image,****
>>
>>> device or server (ex.
>>> -i192.168.1.10:2002)****
>>
>>> -P, --print : display disc and track information****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Help options:****
>>
>>> -?, --help : Show this help message****
>>
>>> --usage : Display brief usage message****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Here's the usage example I tried:****
>>
>>> ****
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>>> Extract all stereo tracks to multiple DSDIFF files and convert all DST to DSD:****
>>
>>> ****
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>>> $ sacd_extract -2 -p -c -i"Foo_Bar_RIP.ISO"****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> So, after the command prompt, I typed: ****
>>
>>> ****
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>>> sacd_extract -2 –p –c –i"TAPESTRY.iso"****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I ended up with a folder named "CAROLE KING – TAPESTRY" and 14 individual
>>> files for each track. However, none of the files were converted to DSD
>>> files. All have the extension DFF.****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I read through the thread on Computer Audiophile and learned that if you
>>> are extracting individual files for playback, it is better to extract to
>>> DSF before converting to DSD. So, I tried this at the command line - ****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> sacd_extract -2 –s –c –I"TAPESTRY.iso"****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> This time, it created the same folder and generated a bunch of DSF files,
>>> again without converting the DSF files to DSD.****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I also tried using their usage examples to create multichannel DSD files.
>>> Again, I was successful at extracting the individual tracks into files, but
>>> I couldn't end up with the DSD files. The conversion step is just getting
>>> ignored. I'm not getting any error messages, so the program seems to be
>>> working. ****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Any ideas???****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Thanks****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> *From:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> surroundsound@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *August Bleed
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:25 PM
>>> *To:* surroundsound@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [SurroundSound] Convert SACD ISO to individual DSD tracks?*
>>> ***
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Yes you should head over to computeraudiophile.com and check out their
>>> thread ps3 SACD ripping part 2. Ted B is the guru of the forum and one of
>>> the folks who was pioneering the work in this area (not the only one of
>>> course). It's a long thread but essentially there is a small program that
>>> runs on windows (and OS X I believe) as a .bat file and does just that. I
>>> suggest checking out the thread and contacting that member. He has a PDF
>>> guide he did himself and is happy to provide folks with the knowledge. He
>>> will also point you to the tools if the forum doesn't already do that. Its
>>> on sourceforge. Not difficult to find at all.****
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Noreltny-gmail <norel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:****
>>
>>> I have a few SACD ISO that play in foobar2000 and I would like to convert
>>> them to individual tracks, preferably DSD files. Both my favorite players
>>> J.River Media Center v17 and foobar2000 can play DSD files.****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> I usually use foobar to convert ISOs to individual tracks. With DVD-A ISO,
>>> I use foobar's convert tool to losslessly convert the MLP to FLAC.
>>> However, last time I tried, I couldn't convert the DSD ISO to FLAC. ****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> So, I was wondering, does anyone if there is a tool to convert the DSD ISO
>>> to DSD files?****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Does anyone know if it is now possible to convert the DSD ISO to FLAC?
>>> Although, I'd prefer to keep these files as DSD, just in case there's some
>>> future advantage in preserving this format.****
>>
>>> ****
>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.****
>>
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