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Sunday, April 22, 2012

Re: [SurroundSound] Convert SACD ISO to individual DSD tracks?

Just as a note of interest, there are a fez more DAC out the capable of playing DSD natively with various players.

Obviously DCS is one of them, playback designs, MYTEK...

Cheers... 

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On 21/04/2012, at 23:13, August Bleed <bleedink@gmail.com> wrote:

dsf files are DSD.  If you have a capable USB dac it will play natively.  Otherwise if you play it from software it will convert to PCM no MATTER WHAT.  You must burn the iso to a disc if you dont have a usb dac that is dsd capable (there are a grand total of 2).  But you got what you were supposed to get.  DSF files are DSD files.  If you can't play them you don't have a usb capable DAC.  That's all.  These are absolutely DSD files you are creating.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Noreltny-gmail <noreltny@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the info.

 

I've almost got it figured out, but not quite. I'm having trouble converting the DSF files to DSD and I'd post a comment on their website, but it won't currently let me post comments or replies. So, I'll ask here in case someone in this group has experience with this.

 

Here's the link to the thread that August is referring to:

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/SACD-ripping-using-your-PS3-part-2

 

Here's a link to the project page, which includes links to download the utilities:

Project home: http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/

Download page: http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/downloads/list

 

I downloaded the file 'sacd_extract_0.3.6_WIN32.zip' and extracted it into a folder that I named "sacdrip'. I copied my SACD ISO file into this directory so it would be easier to work with from a command line prompt.

 

I couldn't find his PDF guide anywhere. If you have a link, I'd really appreciate getting a copy. He does have a link to the instructions, which are here: http://sacd-ripper.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/readme.

 

I'd use the BAT files, but they don't appear to be of any help in my situation. I followed the instructions in the readme and just tried extracting/converting from the command line. Here's the steps I followed:

 

1: From the start menu, I typed "CMD" into the command box (or whatever it's called). This brings up the command window.

2. From the prompt in the command, I navigated to the "sacdrip" directory where I extracted the file 'sacd_extract.exe'.

3. The instructions include a list of command options and a few examples. I tried following the examples. First, here's the list of available options:

 

Usage: sacd_extract [options] [outfile]

  -2, --2ch-tracks                : Export two channel tracks (default)

  -m, --mch-tracks                : Export multi-channel tracks

  -e, --output-dsdiff-em          : output as Philips DSDIFF (Edit Master) file

  -p, --output-dsdiff             : output as Philips DSDIFF file

  -s, --output-dsf                : output as Sony DSF file

  -I, --output-iso                : output as RAW ISO

  -c, --convert-dst               : convert DST to DSD

  -C, --export-cue                : Export a CUE Sheet

  -i, --input[=FILE]              : set source and determine if "iso" image,

                                    device or server (ex. -i192.168.1.10:2002)

  -P, --print                     : display disc and track information

 

Help options:

  -?, --help                      : Show this help message

  --usage                         : Display brief usage message

 

Here's the usage example I tried:

 

Extract all stereo tracks to multiple DSDIFF files and convert all DST to DSD:
 
$ sacd_extract -2 -p -c -i"Foo_Bar_RIP.ISO"

 

So, after the command prompt, I typed:

 

sacd_extract -2 –p –c –i"TAPESTRY.iso"

 

I ended up with a folder named "CAROLE KING – TAPESTRY" and 14 individual files for each track. However, none of the files were converted to DSD files. All have the extension DFF.

 

I read through the thread on Computer Audiophile and learned that if you are extracting individual files for playback, it is better to extract to DSF before converting to DSD. So, I tried this at the command line -

 

sacd_extract -2 –s –c –I"TAPESTRY.iso"

 

This time, it created the same folder and generated a bunch of DSF files, again without converting the DSF files to DSD.

 

I also tried using their usage examples to create multichannel DSD files. Again, I was successful at extracting the individual tracks into files, but I couldn't end up with the DSD files. The conversion step is just getting ignored. I'm not getting any error messages, so the program seems to be working.

 

Any ideas???

 

Thanks

 

 

From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of August Bleed
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:25 PM
To: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [SurroundSound] Convert SACD ISO to individual DSD tracks?

 

Yes you should head over to computeraudiophile.com and check out their thread ps3 SACD ripping part 2.  Ted B is the guru of the forum and one of the folks who was pioneering the work in this area (not the only one of course).  It's a long thread but essentially there is a small program that runs on windows (and OS X I believe) as a .bat file and does just that.  I suggest checking out the thread and contacting that member.  He has a PDF guide he did himself and is happy to provide folks with the knowledge.  He will also point you to the tools if the forum doesn't already do that.  Its on sourceforge.  Not difficult to find at all.

On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Noreltny-gmail <noreltny@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a few SACD ISO that play in foobar2000 and I would like to convert them to individual tracks, preferably DSD files. Both my favorite players J.River Media Center v17 and foobar2000 can play DSD files.

 

I usually use foobar to convert ISOs to individual tracks. With DVD-A ISO, I use foobar's convert tool to losslessly convert the MLP to FLAC.  However, last time I tried, I couldn't convert the DSD ISO to FLAC.

 

So, I was wondering, does anyone if there is a tool to convert the DSD ISO to DSD files?

 

Does anyone know if it is now possible to convert the DSD ISO to FLAC? Although, I'd prefer to keep these files as DSD, just in case there's some future advantage in preserving this format.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

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