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Wednesday, August 3, 2011

[SurroundSound] Re: Can you stream DVD-A Audio Object Files with a DLNA server?

I called Oppo and asked a few of these questions regarding the BDP-93.
They said -

Hard drives need to be directly connected to the player. So it is not
possible to daisy-chain drives to a single port. Since there are two
USB ports, two USB drives can be connected, while only one eSATA port/
drive can be connected. I forgot to ask about multi-bay enclosures
though...

My other question was regarding using a NAS drive for attached
storage. I asked about connecting a NAS drive directly with either USB
or eSATA, and using the network connection for file copying. They said
it MIGHT work, but that a NAS drive is more meant as a 'hub' and so it
may not work directly connected. I wonder if anyone here has ever
tried thus? I think I will post this question on the AVS forum.

On Aug 3, 11:39 am, August Bleed <bleed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would assume you can connect multiple drives as I have a multiple drive
> bay and it is filled with more than one HDD.  I haven't tried it with the
> bays filled but why not?  Yes you are going to have problems if you transfer
> to an NTFS volume with a Mac unless you use a bootcamp thing.  For some
> reason the journaling system in the OS makes these shadow copies all over
> the place.  These are visible to the Oppo and you have to scroll thru these
> normally hidden files to get to the actual files that play.  Twice the work!
>  They cannot be deleted by normal means.  Use windows in bootcamp.  And no
> matter how you have your drives attached to the NAS the Oppo won't see it
> the same way.  You can't play iso's over the network.  Nobody likes it.  But
> that's as they say the way it is.
> I use a Drobo.  They are slow as molasses but they do a great job of backing
> up your data in their weird RAID thing.  I even had 2 drives out of 4 out at
> the same time and it merely asked me to put one back in and the data was
> intact.  Pretty kewl.  Makes up for the fact that it is SLOW.  You can still
> stream just about anything no prob.  I find it an elegant solution sorta a
> la apple.  Plug it in, just works.  This also eliminates the headaches of
> backing up your external drives which isn't real ez to do.
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:22 PM, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Again, thanks for your input here. This is extremely helpful.
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> > Just curious - what drive types/drive capacities are you using?
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> > And how do you backup your data?
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> > My thought would be to get a 4-bay NAS drive for the FLAC-drive, using
> > RAID 5 for backup. But backing up the Oppo drive might require a
> > duplicate drive?
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> > On Aug 2, 9:23 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I end up keeping both the FLAC's and the ISO. The FLAC's stay on my
> > > network drive for streaming purposes, and the ISO's reside on the hard
> > > drive attached to the Oppo. I like the flexibility of playing FLAC's
> > > using Twonky, especially the ability to easily select tracks by genre,
> > > artist, etc. or set up playlists. Also, one of the recent firmware
> > > revisions made selecting and retrieving FLAC files via Twonky very
> > > fast compared to the original firmware in the Oppo.  The ISO is nice
> > > to have if you want to burn a backup copy to a disc or access the
> > > other material such as videos, etc. It requires more hard drive space
> > > to keep both the ISO and FLAC files, but each serves it's purpose.
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> > > Be aware that there have been reports of some multi-bay enclosures not
> > > working with the Oppo. The Oppo also does not currently support hard
> > > drives larger than 2TB's. I have been in contact with Oppo and they
> > > are supposed to be investigating this and hopefully there will be a
> > > firmware update to support 3TB and larger hard drives in the future.
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> > > On Aug 1, 9:52 pm, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Thanks for the reply. BTW I see you are on The Hub, I am now a member
> > > > there.
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> > > > So since the Oppo doesn't support AOB's then that rules out the idea
> > > > of AOB streaming. Not a bad thing actually, since I realize that there
> > > > are many options that I am sorting through in order to figure out how
> > > > best to organize and play material. Knowing that the Oppo plays iso's
> > > > on attached storage might help me figure things out. But it seems that
> > > > Flac is really the most flexible file type - it can be streamed
> > > > easily, can hold multichannel and hi res media, and it doesn't take up
> > > > tons of storage.
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> > > > So is the idea of keeping a "complete" Flac collection (ALL of my
> > > > audio, both hi res/multichannel and stereo CD audio) a good one? If
> > > > so, I guess I will be keeping multiple file types of the same album -
> > > > I want the iso's for backup/disc burning and the flacs for streaming/
> > > > playback. Or perhaps once I burn the DVD-A disc I can keep this as my
> > > > backup, have the flac for playback, and in theory I wouldn't need the
> > > > iso anymore...some food for thought.
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> > > > I believe a 4-bay NAS device is next on my list.
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> > > > On Aug 1, 5:28 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > I use Twonky to stream to my Oppo 93. Unfortunately, the Oppo
> > supports
> > > > > the VOB container format, but not AOB.  I have FLAC files ripped from
> > > > > most of my DVD-A's so they can be streamed via Twonky. No problem
> > > > > streaming multichannel or stereo FLAC files ripped from DVD-A's.
> > > > > However, since Oppo began supporting ISO's from attached storage, I
> > > > > now play my DVD-A ISO's on the Oppo from an attached hard drive. It's
> > > > > nice to have full menu control and access to any videos and the
> > hi-rez
> > > > > stereo tracks from the ISO's.  The hard drive attached to the Oppo
> > > > > also serves as a back-up to the ISO's on my PC hard drive.  The only
> > > > > hassle is disconnecting the attached hard drive and lugging it the PC
> > > > > to synch/add files. There is currently no way to stream ISO's via
> > > > > DLNA, supposedly because the DLNA protocol doesn't support it.
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> > > > > On Aug 1, 1:27 am, citysoundman <bobkirschn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > I have a bunch of DVD-A discs stored as .iso files. I mount them on
> > my
> > > > > > desktop (Mac), and  I would like to stream the hi res DVD-A files
> > > > > > (Audio Object Files, or AOB's) to my Oppo BDP-93. Currently I am
> > using
> > > > > > Twonky, and I can only stream the VOB Dolby Surround files in the
> > > > > > VIDEO_TS folder, not the AOB files in the AUDIO_TS folder. It seems
> > > > > > that Twonky does not support AOB streaming.
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> > > > > > Is it possible to stream the AOB files? Or is it standard practice
> > to
> > > > > > convert the files to Flac and stream them as Flac? I would love to
> > be
> > > > > > able to stream the AOB's if possible.
>
> > > > > > Thanks in advance!
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