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Sunday, January 2, 2011

[SurroundSound] Re: same old story, hoping for different ending this time

vista mentioned in first paragraph of my first post, sorry you missed
it. No telepathy required.

On Jan 2, 3:43 pm, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I can't see that you noted it was Vista; telepathy is running out sorry.
>
> On page 26 of your manual it states that you can only playback WAV files at
> 64kHz/16 bit max. So your lossless should be CD quality compatible only. It
> is also DNLA compliant so you will need to use Windows media player. If I
> was you I would dispense with the network bit and connect a digital input to
> it (S/PDIF) and download one of the players above. You will then be able to
> use flac and  etc. Otherwise I suggest it will be a hard slog.
>
> A quick Google would have clarified this:
> This is the thread and the link is here:http://www.allquests.com/question/1820345/Marantz-AV8003-MM8003.html
> What now follows is not my words: but from the above AV forum.
>
> "I appreciate this gets confusing. Assuming you are only using ripped
> material on a PC (or NAS) music server, there are three ways to wire this
> up:
>
>    1. PC --network--> Media Player --analog--> AV8003 --analog--> amp
>    2. PC --network--> media Player --S/PDIF--> AV8003 --analog--> amp
>    3. PC --network--> AV8003 --analog--> amp
>
> In option (1) the MP is doing the D to A. So the MP's DACs are being used.
> Then the AV8003 pre/pro does a passthrough of analog. This is using the
> "preamp" function of the AV8003, or sometimes called "pure direct".
>
> In option (2) the MP is decoding from FLAC to PCM, i.e. simply passing bits
> to the AV8003, which does the D to A conversion. So the AV8003 DACs are
> being used.
>
> In option (3) the MP is integrated, and the AV8003 DACs are also being used.
>
> The statement is that the AV8003 does not support FLAC, so you can't use
> option (3) with the music on the PC in FLAC format. This option is believed
> to only support lossy music formats.
>
> So you have to use either option (1) or (2) if you want FLAC support. The
> Slim Devices (aka Logitech) Squeezebox 3 (SB3) is one relatively low cost
> media player which supports FLAC lossless. Which one of these 2 options you
> use is a matter of personal preference. On the assumption the analog stage
> of the AV8003 is better than the SB3 analog stage, option (2) might be
> preferred, but you can try both and see. Some would argue you won't hear a
> difference.
>
> Clear as mud?
>
> Eric Carroll"
>
> I hope this now sorts
> Lokks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>
> On Behalf Of kiwi2000
> Sent: 02 January 2011 20:48
> To: SurroundSound
> Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: same old story, hoping for different ending
> this time
>
> I said I have vista.
>
> How do you control which songs to play? Do you use the remote of your
> stereo, or?
>
> This is my network playerhttp://ca.marantz.com/AV8003_Network_DFU_U_EN.pdf
> I use the remote from it to control the computer output of audio files.
>
> Can I right click on something to let you know what sound card I have?
>
> The computer is a dell inspiron 530 pentium dual core e5200 @2.5GHz 3GB RAM
> 32 bit
>
> I think maybe some of the problem is with my enabling sharing in vista it is
> confusing.
>
> On Jan 2, 1:53 pm, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I play back my collection - which is entirely lossless - using either
> > Winamp or Foobar.
> > Do you have any details on which PC you use - like a manual? And yes
> > soundcard is ultra important.  You do not mention what software your
> > PC is so we're gonna have to start from basics...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>
> > On Behalf Of kiwi2000
> > Sent: 02 January 2011 17:55
> > To: SurroundSound
> > Subject: [SurroundSound] Re: same old story, hoping for different
> > ending this time
>
> > I dont know what sound card i have. How can I check and is it important?
> > Whatever came with the  computer.
> > I thought I would try this twonky server, but you think foobar or
> > winamp would do the trick for what i want in playing back lossless
> > audio tracks etc?
> > I am using the cord that looks like a phone cord sort of, the same
> > thing that the internet is connected to.
>
> > On Jan 2, 10:20 am, "Lokkerman" <phil.steep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What soundcard are you using and what is the configuration?
> > > Have you used a free player such as Foobar2000 or Winamp?
> > > What are you using to  connect to the processor?
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: surroundsound@googlegroups.com
> > > [mailto:surroundsound@googlegroups.com]
>
> > > On Behalf Of kiwi2000
> > > Sent: 02 January 2011 14:57
> > > To: SurroundSound
> > > Subject: [SurroundSound] same old story, hoping for different ending
> > > this time
>
> > > I have asked for help with playing full resolution audio files in
> > > the past but have really not had the gear to do it. I now have a
> > > desk top hard drive computer running vista with mouse keyboard and
> > > screen and a connection to my processor for home theater. This
> > > information is displayed on a monitor. The problem I have is I
> > > cannot get WAV files to
> > pass through to the processor.
>
> > > It was suggested to me that the problem was that media player was
> > > withholding the output of lossless files. I downloaded "audiograbber"
> > > to rip WAV. This still has not corrected the problem as the tracks
> > > are grayed out and not playable. It is very frustrating.
>
> > > I am wondering also about HD tracks service that offers HD audio,
> > > but how would I access these to play? I apparently have some issue
> > > that needs attention here and I am wondering how others are
> > > accessing these lossless files. I have downloaded a trial of twonky
> > > server but have not as yet been able to get it to work, that was
> > > another suggestion. I will have to wait for a reply from twonky tech on
> that matter.
>
> > > I can also see a problem with cataloging and finding music using
> > > media player with lossy audio if it has many titles it will be a
> > > problem to locate titles as I cannot make folders for various genres
> > > of music. I do not want to purchase anything else to achieve the
> solution however.
>
> > > I am laboring along and have achieved a network audio player
> > > somewhat but would still like to enjoy full HD audio and be able to
> > > download and playback HD tracks as well. I know I have asked in the
> > > past but this is a work in progress so to speak and any helpful
> > > constructive advice on this topic will be much appreciated.
>
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