It was a tongue in cheek comment which was not really aimed at you. Sully and I have been at loggerheads over what we can and cannot hear for a fair few years, we mostly do off line nowadays.
As for DSD vs PCM I can see the arguments on both sides and until now native DSD DACs have been too expensive to even try and compare. I only managed to get hold of mine a month ago. What is apparent is that DSD is the medium of choice for material in the upmarket hi-fi circles. This material even sounds good in redbook so it becomes diminishing returns.
As I noted to Steven in the past, some of us can hear a difference between different rates/depth/schemes. instead of being at loggerheads I simply want to know why that happens and whether it's something quite obvious like an enhanced timbre awareness, especially with higher order harmonics, which can be demonstrated quite easily with combined frequencies in harmony with one of them being beyond the audible range. The two can be heard but with an aggressive brick wall it changes the sound you hear. Mathematically this was worked out almost 30 years before Shannan.
As to the EoH comments on the other thread _ you get genuine differences between want you hear and EoH and I would like to investigate why. As I haven't listened to this UP as yet I cannot make any comments as to what it sounds like to my ears. You never know it could be a decoding or matrix issue in the firmware of the Meridian. Open views are required by all of us.
Please all be patient and understanding of everyone's views.
On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 22:54 manxminx, <kris@mcb.net> wrote:
--but as it appears that no one can tell the difference between lossy and lossless let alone hi res, who gives about DSD lol
Just to point out, neither I nor anyone else on this thread has said that no one can tell the difference between lossless and lossy. By all means mock me, I don't mind, honestly :)
If I were a recording engineer then I probably would be interested in DSD. But I'm not. Many people feel that high bit rate PCM sounds better than DSD. In fact, as I'm sure you know, both PCM and DSD have advantages and disadvantages. One is not clearly better than the other. Many people cleverer than any of us have pointed this out, including, for example, John Siau of Benchmark Media, Dan Lavry, etc. In actual fact a 24/96 copy of a DSD recording should (if done correctly) be mathematically indistinguishable from the original. The fact is that there is NO scientific basis for claims that DSD is better than high bitrate PCM.I would argue that if your AVR in the year 2018 A.D. lacks an HDMI port (or two) , it's far from 'perfectly good'.
Meridian Surround Sound Audio Processors are not just perfectly good but extremely good, I can assure you :)
Ali.
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