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Sunday, October 10, 2010

[SurroundSound] Re: Success with WYWH 35th Anniversary Bluray?

No, my problem is different. I also have the audio go through optical
to my receiver. My issue is that the PS3 see's the test disk as a
"data disk" and allows me to browse the folder structure of the dvd,
rather than launching like any old movie would.

I also didn't buy any blank Bluray discs today. The store I went to
only had one brand, and the price was over $18 for 3. Too steep for
me, I'll hopefully pick up some soon for cheaper and burn another
test.

On Oct 10, 5:03 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is waht I understood too. I am wondering if the user that is
> having troubles with the disc on PS3 has an older player and is not
> streaming the data to a compatible decoder? The way I read PS3 specs
> it plays just about anything. I do not have one and all my playback
> goes fiber stream to my decoder so I never encounter any issues with
> the exception of improper region coding which my US made player frowns
> upon.
>
> On Oct 10, 6:05 pm, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > While a ps3 doesn't except the standard of DVD-A, it does accept bluray, and
> > the WYWH collection is bluray (there is no distinction anymore between an
> > audio vs video disc... its all bluray).  Interesting TrueHD is MLP in
> > disguise so any blu player COULD play DVD-A or MLP if liscensing or firmware
> > allowed...
> > S
>
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Also, that quote is old. DTS-HD MA decoding on the PS3 was included
> > > with a firmware update some time ago.
>
> > > On Oct 10, 5:29 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > That's not the issue. The PS3 can decode DTS-HD MA and TrueHD and send
> > > > it as PCM, it just can't bitstream it to a receiver for decoding in
> > > > the receiver. Virtually every movie blu-ray disc has one or the other
> > > > of these codecs which the PS3 decodes as PCM. No different with a
> > > > music blu-ray disc. For instance, I have The Last Waltz & Anesthetize
> > > > BD's both of which have DTS-HD MA.
>
> > > > On Oct 10, 4:58 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > This might be the answer to the PS3 question;
>
> > > > > "The hdmi chip on the PS3 cannot bitstream the new high def codecs
> > > > > like TrueHD and DTS-HD/MA. You have to have to PS3 decode it
> > > > > internally and while it still cannot do DTS-HD/MA a firmware update
> > > > > for it is coming. So for right now you can enjoy TrueHD and
> > > > > Uncompressed PCM with your PS3 by setting it to LPCM. So if you were
> > > > > wanting for the TrueHD or DTS-HD light on your receiver to light up,
> > > > > sorry to say it will never happen as long as you have the PS3. "
>
> > > > > On Oct 10, 1:41 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Both the entire compilation and the test disc are AVCHD/Blu-ray discs
> > > > > > with AVCHD/BR file structure. The audio is DTS-HD MA which is only
> > > > > > compatible with BR and HDDVD. The test disc fits SL DVD (aka BD5).
>
> > > > > > On okt. 10, 19:33, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Maybe Grill could respond to this. Is the entire disc BDA or Blue
> > > Ray
> > > > > > > menu with DVD-A audio data files?
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 10, 11:45 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You're correct that PS3's don't play DVD-A. I believe it's
> > > because
> > > > > > > > PS3's don't decode MLP since Sony has never supported DVD-A as a
> > > > > > > > competing format to SACD.
>
> > > > > > > > However, now I'm confused - why would you say the WYWH 35th
> > > > > > > > Anniversary Compilation is a DVD-A, not a Blu-ray?  I thought it
> > > was a
> > > > > > > > set of m2ts files burned as a BDA. PS3's will play m2ts files.
> > >  For
> > > > > > > > instance, I play the Tom Petty Live Anthology burned as a BDA
> > > > > > > > (containing m2ts files) just fine.
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 10, 11:41 am, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:> I
> > > am not positive on this, but knowing Sony and knowing none of their
> > > > > > > > > home audio/video equipment plays any DVD-A material, and
> > > knowing the
> > > > > > > > > PS3 is a Sony product, it stands to reason that the PS3 will
> > > not play
> > > > > > > > > a DVD-A disc which is what the WYWH 35th Anni disc is. Correct
> > > me Mr.
> > > > > > > > > Disney if I am wrong about this ;)
>
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 9:48 pm, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Okay either I may be doing something wrong when burning, or
> > > my PS3 is
> > > > > > > > > > not cooperating. I burned the ISO to a DVD-R using ImgBurn.
> > > When I put
> > > > > > > > > > it in the drive, the PS3 recognizes it as a "Data Disc" and
> > > when I try
> > > > > > > > > > to play it, instead of loading it up like it would a normal
> > > movie, it
> > > > > > > > > > gives me a sub-menu (still in the PS3 software) of the discs
> > > folder
> > > > > > > > > > structure to browse through.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 4:28 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Try DVDRW, it may work too.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On okt. 10, 01:26, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I'm out of bluray disks, gonna pick some up from the
> > > store tomorrow,
> > > > > > > > > > > > and hopefully I can report back positively as well.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2:13 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > WYWH Test disc works!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm in USA so in must be a region coding issue as you
> > > surmised.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 12:16 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I was refering to. Regardless of what
> > > terms are used to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > describe things there is as a fact region coding and
> > > is as a fact an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > inability of certain players in certain regions to
> > > play certain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > encoded formats. So in carrying thru with with the
> > > Mr. Disney's quote
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the menu is encoded in a certain format and the
> > > player says I can't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > load this regardless of what the remainder of your
> > > disc content is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > period. Good work as always Grill!!! I believe we
> > > have solved this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 6:19 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Stephen for the info. Here's below the end
> > > part of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > multiAVCHD log of my test authoring. It's been
> > > logged that that NTSC
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menus and NTSC welcome screen were created:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Preparing authoring information...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Creating NTSC top menu.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Setting pop-up menu...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu
> > > [1080p]...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu
> > > [1080p]...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] *** Completed!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] Authoring menu (NTSC).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] Creating title thumbnails for 2 titles
> > > (CAR)...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:19] Using 1 thumbnail/chapter links for
> > > title #1...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:19]  *** Extracting 1 chapter thumbnails...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:19]  *** Chapter #1 [00:00:00.000] set for
> > > thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [00:00:14.951]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22] Using 5 thumbnail/chapter links for
> > > title #2...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22]  *** Extracting 5 chapter thumbnails...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22]  *** Chapter #2 [00:13:43.336] set for
> > > thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [00:13:43.337]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22]  *** Chapter #3 [00:21:13.512] set for
> > > thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [00:21:13.513]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22]  *** Chapter #4 [00:26:57.162] set for
> > > thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [00:26:57.162]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22]  *** Chapter #5 [00:32:01.782] set for
> > > thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [00:32:01.783]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:24] Image processing for CAR menu completed!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:24] Preparing menu pages...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:24] Encoding static CAR menu page [1/2]
> > > [Static title
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thumbnail].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:42] Encoding static CAR menu page [1/2]:
> > > Chapter page [1/1].
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:46] Encoding static CAR menu page [2/2]
> > > [Static title
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thumbnail].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:52] Encoding static CAR menu page [2/2]:
> > > Chapter page [1/1].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:57] Menu authoring completed.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:57] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:09] Authoring welcome screen (NTSC).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:09] Encoding welcome screen...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:22] Authoring welcome screen completed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Playback will end after title #2.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Setting menu properties...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Completed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Setting Blu-ray format...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] Done!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project
> > > (mpf):
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] D:\DVD\WYWH\BD\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf
> > > (OK!)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >         Compilation summary:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >         Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >         Name  : WYWH_test_NTSC
>
> > > ===========================================================================­­­­­­­====
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >         1. Release message
>
> ...
>
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