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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM, scolumbo <sacolumbo@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, that quote is old. DTS-HD MA decoding on the PS3 was included
with a firmware update some time ago.
On Oct 10, 5:29 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's not the issue. The PS3 can decode DTS-HD MA and TrueHD and send
> it as PCM, it just can't bitstream it to a receiver for decoding in
> the receiver. Virtually every movie blu-ray disc has one or the other
> of these codecs which the PS3 decodes as PCM. No different with a
> music blu-ray disc. For instance, I have The Last Waltz & Anesthetize
> BD's both of which have DTS-HD MA.
>
> On Oct 10, 4:58 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This might be the answer to the PS3 question;
>
> > "The hdmi chip on the PS3 cannot bitstream the new high def codecs
> > like TrueHD and DTS-HD/MA. You have to have to PS3 decode it
> > internally and while it still cannot do DTS-HD/MA a firmware update
> > for it is coming. So for right now you can enjoy TrueHD and
> > Uncompressed PCM with your PS3 by setting it to LPCM. So if you were
> > wanting for the TrueHD or DTS-HD light on your receiver to light up,
> > sorry to say it will never happen as long as you have the PS3. "
>
> > On Oct 10, 1:41 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > Both the entire compilation and the test disc are AVCHD/Blu-ray discs
> > > with AVCHD/BR file structure. The audio is DTS-HD MA which is only
> > > compatible with BR and HDDVD. The test disc fits SL DVD (aka BD5).
>
> > > On okt. 10, 19:33, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Maybe Grill could respond to this. Is the entire disc BDA or Blue Ray
> > > > menu with DVD-A audio data files?
>
> > > > On Oct 10, 11:45 am, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > You're correct that PS3's don't play DVD-A. I believe it's because
> > > > > PS3's don't decode MLP since Sony has never supported DVD-A as a
> > > > > competing format to SACD.
>
> > > > > However, now I'm confused - why would you say the WYWH 35th
> > > > > Anniversary Compilation is a DVD-A, not a Blu-ray? I thought it was a
> > > > > set of m2ts files burned as a BDA. PS3's will play m2ts files. For
> > > > > instance, I play the Tom Petty Live Anthology burned as a BDA
> > > > > (containing m2ts files) just fine.
>
> > > > > On Oct 10, 11:41 am, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:> I am not positive on this, but knowing Sony and knowing none of their
> > > > > > home audio/video equipment plays any DVD-A material, and knowing the
> > > > > > PS3 is a Sony product, it stands to reason that the PS3 will not play
> > > > > > a DVD-A disc which is what the WYWH 35th Anni disc is. Correct me Mr.
> > > > > > Disney if I am wrong about this ;)
>
> > > > > > On Oct 9, 9:48 pm, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Okay either I may be doing something wrong when burning, or my PS3 is
> > > > > > > not cooperating. I burned the ISO to a DVD-R using ImgBurn. When I put
> > > > > > > it in the drive, the PS3 recognizes it as a "Data Disc" and when I try
> > > > > > > to play it, instead of loading it up like it would a normal movie, it
> > > > > > > gives me a sub-menu (still in the PS3 software) of the discs folder
> > > > > > > structure to browse through.
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 9, 4:28 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Try DVDRW, it may work too.
>
> > > > > > > > On okt. 10, 01:26, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I'm out of bluray disks, gonna pick some up from the store tomorrow,
> > > > > > > > > and hopefully I can report back positively as well.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 2:13 pm, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > WYWH Test disc works!
>
> > > > > > > > > > I'm in USA so in must be a region coding issue as you surmised.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 9, 12:16 pm, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This is what I was refering to. Regardless of what terms are used to
> > > > > > > > > > > describe things there is as a fact region coding and is as a fact an
> > > > > > > > > > > inability of certain players in certain regions to play certain
> > > > > > > > > > > encoded formats. So in carrying thru with with the Mr. Disney's quote
> > > > > > > > > > > the menu is encoded in a certain format and the player says I can't
> > > > > > > > > > > load this regardless of what the remainder of your disc content is
> > > > > > > > > > > period. Good work as always Grill!!! I believe we have solved this
> > > > > > > > > > > issue.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 6:19 pm, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Stephen for the info. Here's below the end part of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > multiAVCHD log of my test authoring. It's been logged that that NTSC
> > > > > > > > > > > > menus and NTSC welcome screen were created:
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Preparing authoring information...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Creating NTSC top menu.
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:13] Setting pop-up menu...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] *** Completed!
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] Authoring menu (NTSC).
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:14] Creating title thumbnails for 2 titles (CAR)...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:19] Using 1 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:19] *** Extracting 1 chapter thumbnails...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:19] *** Chapter #1 [00:00:00.000] set for thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > [00:00:14.951]
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22] Using 5 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22] *** Extracting 5 chapter thumbnails...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22] *** Chapter #2 [00:13:43.336] set for thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > [00:13:43.337]
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22] *** Chapter #3 [00:21:13.512] set for thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > [00:21:13.513]
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22] *** Chapter #4 [00:26:57.162] set for thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > [00:26:57.162]
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:22] *** Chapter #5 [00:32:01.782] set for thumbnail at
> > > > > > > > > > > > [00:32:01.783]
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:24] Image processing for CAR menu completed!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:24] Preparing menu pages...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:24] Encoding static CAR menu page [1/2] [Static title
> > > > > > > > > > > > thumbnail].
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:42] Encoding static CAR menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:46] Encoding static CAR menu page [2/2] [Static title
> > > > > > > > > > > > thumbnail].
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:52] Encoding static CAR menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:57] Menu authoring completed.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:58:57] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:09] Authoring welcome screen (NTSC).
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:09] Encoding welcome screen...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:22] Authoring welcome screen completed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Playback will end after title #2.
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Setting menu properties...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Completed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:23] Setting Blu-ray format...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] Done!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] D:\DVD\WYWH\BD\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Compilation summary:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
> > > > > > > > > > > > Name : WYWH_test_NTSC
> > > > > > > > > > > > ===============================================================================
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Release message [00:00:29]
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. britre (Harvest Q4SHVL814 SQ-LP) [00:45:05]
> > > > > > > > > > > > ===============================================================================
> > > > > > > > > > > > Overall duration : 00:45:35
> > > > > > > > > > > > Output size : 993 MiB (0.97 GiB)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] D:\DVD\WYWH\BD\AVCHD folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:25] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:27] Select folder/name for ISO file...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:46] Using ISO mode / destination: D:\DVD\WYWH\BD_
> > > > > > > > > > > > \WYWH_test_NTSC.iso
> > > > > > > > > > > > [21:59:46] Launching ImgBurn...
> > > > > > > > > > > > [22:00:53] You may now remove temp folder (D:\Temp
> > > > > > > > > > > > \multiTEMP-20101008\).
> > > > > > > > > > > > [22:00:53] Your compilation contains 0hrs 45min 35sec of video
> > > > > > > > > > > > material.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [22:00:53] multiAVCHD finished in 197.466 seconds (00:03:17.465)!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > [22:00:53] End of log.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On okt. 9, 00:44, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't argue any more... but I dislike disinformation. One of MANY
> > > > > > > > > > > > > possible quotes... this one from forum.bluray.com...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > S
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe your last questions answer is NTSC and PAL neither exist anymore
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for HD broadcasts. It's either MPEG2 or maybe MPEG4/AVC. Depending on which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > channels you have which broadcast HD content.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only thing that's NTSC or PAL anymore with any Blu-ray disc is more often
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > then not SD resolution extras. If you have a display button
>
> ...
>
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