Agreed! 
Anyway, the official FLAC site lists several Mac apps for decoding (decompressing) FLACs . It's also not very up to date, but still.
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html
From the list there, xACT or MacFLAC look like your best bets to me. Both look like simple 'flac frontend' type apps...drag the files into the window, press 'decode' and it generates the decompressed files. xACT claims to be Intel-compatible.
After using these make sure your decompressed file names have the .wav suffix. (e.g. 01 - Peaceful.dts.wav)
On 01/04/13 15:52, Stephen Disney wrote:
Its only complicated if you insist on using a mac... ;)
SOn Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:40 PM, floyd fisher <fisherking3k@gmail.com> wrote:
that app is from 2003, and a PPC app...not intel. but you've got me pointed in a good direction, will look for other similar apps on macupdate...
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM, floyd fisher <fisherking3k@gmail.com> wrote:
thanx, will explore this now... amazed how complicated this is (and AMAZED at how helpful everyone here is as well!). will report back...
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Steven Sullivan <ssully@panix.com> wrote:
Again, flac is just a compressed format, like a .zip file. Just as you have to unzip a zip file before you use, any audio playback software you use would have to decompress the .flac file first before it plays. Software like foobar does this 'on the fly', you never see the decompressed file .
If your player software doesn't decompress flac files on the fly, then you must decompress ('convert') them yourself and keep them as dts.wav files -- Mac users can use FLAcer (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16458/flacer) for this, if you have no other flac encode/decode software handy. It's a simple drag and drop app.
As a side note, the only reason these .dts.wav files (which are already lossy compressed) are also .flac compressed, is to allow tagging. There was no file size advantage to making them .flacs. There is no reason they have to stay as flacs, if you don't care about tagging.
Once you have your files as dts.wav files -- which are just .dts files in a .wav wrapper -- I am presuming there must be some Mac software that can bitstream them bit-perfectly (you do NOT want to decode the dts/dts.wav files in the computer; you want to bitstream them and let your AVR decode the DTS information). Make sure the soundcard/software output is set to 48kHz, and that your computer volume level is MAXED. Otherwise the bitstream will be altered and the output will be static.
On 01/04/13 14:04, floyd fisher wrote:
i already have them as flac files, am trying to either convert them, or play them. isedora gives me...static. converting to wav (in Max) gives me wav files that play static.
it's beyond me (for now LOL); all my other files are dvd audio, and work great. (still, it's some of the best static i've heard...)...
On Friday, January 4, 2013 1:49:51 PM UTC-5, Blee...@yahoo.comwrote:Well one thing that is a problem is that flac isn't at all supported on macs. You must have a 3rd party software to play it. Second, I am unclear what you are converting TO flac. If it's a Video TS folder you're best best is DVD Audio Extractor. If you are converting say a WAV file to flac that's already a DTS file you can do that from inside foobar or Jriver. The resultant file would play on your mac with the correct software in that instance all parameters set correctly and all that ie bit perfect. I am unclear as to why you are using toast to convert to flac. There are better tools and that could be why it isn't working. I'd suggest another windows program (aside from the obvious foobar) like dbpoweramp. That is sort of the holy grail of format conversions, one of the best. It isn't free. Foobar is.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM, floyd fisher <fisher...@gmail.com> wrote:
am about as confused as i was BEFORE i read this LOL. am good with all the other files i've found; they're all dvd audio files (audio ts and video ts), so i can open them in apple's dvd player. and the audio midi settings easily switch to 8ch 24bit. the ONLY thing i can't work out is these flac files. i've converted in toast, then converted the toast file to audio/video ts...and...static.will re-read your post once (IF) my brain clears...
On Friday, January 4, 2013 1:20:37 PM UTC-5, Blee...@yahoo.com wrote:Steven is right in that it is just a matter of bitstreaming from the mac. Unfortunately unlike windows Macs don't change the sample and word lengths automatically. So unless you have it set to the correct parameters for the particular track (using iTunes as an example) set in the audio/midi settings you will get nada but static. My suggestion is to either use bootcamp to run something like JRiver or Foobar as they will output both DTS flacs and wavs. Again there are a couple programs on the mac that will do all this automatically. A suggestion would be to post to say Computeraudiophile.com and they usually are up on what works. I've personally accomplished it before but it is a big old bag of hurt most of the time. For example, my MBP will sometimes boot 2 channel (and no amount of mucking with Audio Midi will change that) and I have to remove the preference file in order for it to recognize all of the 8 channels it supports. Thus if I were to try to play a DTS file with that particular bug active, nothing I do to the mac will allow me to play that file. If I reboot and the Audio Midi reveals all 8 channels present and active then I can play MC files with certain 3rd party players. You will NOT accomplish this in iTunes no matter what you do. All this convinced me MC music on a mac is just too hard to be reliable. I personally get around this by using Playback Media Server and iSedora (both work bitperfect on Mac) and a suitable UPNP/DLNA renderer that does MC (Oppo being one example, but there are probably lots of little media boxes that would handle this duty, or you could use another PC to stream to). I also get better sound streaming than a direct bitstream from the Mac, though several 3rd party players do memory play so depending on your equipment memory play may trump streaming. Bitstreaming from the mac isn't so easy however. XBMC is probably the simplest way I know of doing it on a mac but it is NOT an audiophile music player. It will however bitstream from a mac when connected to the right equipment and you needn't muck around in audio midi settings unless you are only registering 2 channels on your mac. (Mine is a handshaking issue related to having 3 different monitors hooked to a MBP. YMMV and you may not have a problem with your mac staying on 8 channels, this is particular to my set up although some MBP's do default to 2 channel whenever a preference file is corrupted or what have you. Hope I didn't confuse you even more.On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Steven Sullivan <ssu...@panix.com> wrote:AC3 , not AAC
On 01/03/13 23:24, Steven Sullivan wrote:
Flac is merely a lossless compressed version, useful for tagging. If your software can't play the flac file directly (as e.g. foobar2000 can on PCs), decompress them to their original form: in this case, dts.wav.
For streaming, as with any dts, aac file, your signal chain must not alter the bitstream in any way. That means the playback volume must be at max, and there must be no sample rate conversions or DSP active.
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