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Sunday, July 8, 2012

Re: [SurroundSound] Re: New AV Receiver

Robert,

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5.1 and Speaker Positioning
Our last house had vaulted ceilings. The shape of our room required creative speaker placement. The Pioneer receiver did an awesome job with its built-in room correction (MCACC). I set up 5.1 with the surrounds placed on our staircase and the subwoofer in several places before finding that magic corner. I used an additional pair of Polk Bookshelf speakers for front height (dolby II z). The results were magic. Front height -- there's also front width -- can provide surround effects from the front stage. Though it's easier to set up 5.1 in a traditional arrangement, you can still do it in other ways and have a great time. My wife could work the remote that came with our Pioneer and it controlled every piece of equipment in our home theater except the HTPC. Their iPhone / iPad app is the most intuitive tweaker I've experienced to date. I'm sure that Denon would offer you this same sort of flexibility. Even though I've never owned their equipment, I've got friends and family who do. Through them I've heard other traditional and non-traditional set ups that work quite well.

I'm still unclear on your first post. Did you want to spend as much as $1,000 for an AVR and then speakers are extra? Or did you want the AVR + speakers for $1,000. I assumed you wanted both for $1,000 -- an entry level set up that isn't a Home Theater In A Box.

One last note about Pioneer. You can pick up an Elite Receiver in your price range. The Pioneer Elite VSX-51 is just $461 at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Elite-VSX-51-7-1-Channel-Receiver/dp/B005ETJVUM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341744045&sr=8-1&keywords=pioneer+elite

The advantage on this one is the two-year warranty. Built to last longer. In my current home theater set up, I had a 90-day trial with a similar Pioneer Elite receiver and loved it too. You can go to their website and download the user manual here:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/AV-Receivers/Elite+Receivers/VSX-51?tab=specifications#

You can also do this with Denon and other AVRs you're looking at -- Onkyo, Yamaha, etc. -- and I encourage you to do so.

I would have stayed with the Pioneer Elite if it weren't for the fact that Emotiva dropped the price on their UMC-1 to just $499. That made it possible for me to move into the world of separates -- a move that has pros and cons. I'll gladly share that experience with you another time.

On Saturday, July 7, 2012 3:25:28 PM UTC-7, MALL wrote:
Thank you all for responses.  My listening area is the lower part of a split level area 
of my house, measuring approx 8 yards x 5 yards with very high ceilings so a lot of air space. The ceiling at its highest point..8 yards.

I cannot adopt the classic 5.1 speaker positioning due to a big wood heater, used in our winter (currently very cold) forcing me to position speakers oddly.  I should post a picture to explain.  Can we do this on this forum, I haven't see any. 

Does to classic 5.1 speaker positioning matter??


On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Tab Cursor <tabcursor@gmail.com> wrote:
On a $1,000 budget (US), the most common pairing I've seen is Denon + Klipsch. At Amazon, you can get a Denon AVR 2112 and Klipsch Sub / Satellites for under $800 US.
 
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Z0S7OM -- Denon 2112 - $468.85
 
 
If you can demo this pairing and you like it, I'd recommend this combo. I've never owned Denon / Klipsch, but I've demo'd many set ups. They're built to last and they go together.
 
You can pick up the Pioneer VSX-1121 (a step up from the VSX-1021) plus Polk sub / satellites for under $920
 
 
I had the Pioneer VSX-1020 and it was by far my favorite receiver to date. The problem is the warranty -- only 1 year. And I like my music screaming loud! I had one year with the VSX-1020 and it died. Perhaps, one day I'll reconsider Pioneer. Polk absolutely rocks, and at this price the sub / sats are a steal. No, they don't rock like towers, but are excellent starters. Music and movies are incredible.
 
The last speaker set I'd recommend are the Cerwin Vega sub / sats. They rock even harder than the Polks. If you haven't heard Cerwin Vega lately, I love 'em. The CMX line is thrilling for both music and movies, but at this price you might have to skimp on your receiver.
 
 
 

On Thursday, July 5, 2012 5:19:57 PM UTC-7, MALL wrote:
Hi all, seeking advise regarding a new AV Receiver around the $1,000 Aussie Dollars. Thinking Denon 3312, Pioneer VSX1021 etc.  Also a new set of Speakers to match?

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