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Friday, October 8, 2010

[SurroundSound] Re: Success with WYWH 35th Anniversary Bluray?

Thanks Stephen for the info. Here's below the end part of the
multiAVCHD log of my test authoring. It's been logged that that NTSC
menus and NTSC welcome screen were created:
...
[21:58:13] Preparing authoring information...
[21:58:13] Creating NTSC top menu.
[21:58:13] Setting pop-up menu...
[21:58:14] *** [00000.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
[21:58:14] *** [00001.mpls] - Adding pop-up menu [1080p]...
[21:58:14] *** Completed!
[21:58:14] Authoring menu (NTSC).
[21:58:14] Creating title thumbnails for 2 titles (CAR)...
[21:58:19] Using 1 thumbnail/chapter links for title #1...
[21:58:19] *** Extracting 1 chapter thumbnails...
[21:58:19] *** Chapter #1 [00:00:00.000] set for thumbnail at
[00:00:14.951]
[21:58:22] Using 5 thumbnail/chapter links for title #2...
[21:58:22] *** Extracting 5 chapter thumbnails...
[21:58:22] *** Chapter #2 [00:13:43.336] set for thumbnail at
[00:13:43.337]
[21:58:22] *** Chapter #3 [00:21:13.512] set for thumbnail at
[00:21:13.513]
[21:58:22] *** Chapter #4 [00:26:57.162] set for thumbnail at
[00:26:57.162]
[21:58:22] *** Chapter #5 [00:32:01.782] set for thumbnail at
[00:32:01.783]
[21:58:24] Image processing for CAR menu completed!

[21:58:24] Preparing menu pages...

[21:58:24] Encoding static CAR menu page [1/2] [Static title
thumbnail].
[21:58:42] Encoding static CAR menu page [1/2]: Chapter page [1/1].

[21:58:46] Encoding static CAR menu page [2/2] [Static title
thumbnail].
[21:58:52] Encoding static CAR menu page [2/2]: Chapter page [1/1].
[21:58:57] Menu authoring completed.

[21:58:57] Encoding Title List menu page [1/1].
[21:59:09] Authoring welcome screen (NTSC).
[21:59:09] Encoding welcome screen...
[21:59:22] Authoring welcome screen completed.
[21:59:23] Setting main menu for 2 titles...
[21:59:23] Playback will end after title #2.
[21:59:23] Setting menu properties...
[21:59:23] Selected TV system: [NTSC]
[21:59:23] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[21:59:23] Completed.
[21:59:23] Setting Blu-ray format...
[21:59:25] Done!

[21:59:25] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[21:59:25] D:\DVD\WYWH\BD\AVCHD\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Blu-ray player (BD-R/BD-RE disc)
Name : WYWH_test_NTSC
===============================================================================
1. Release message [00:00:29]
2. britre (Harvest Q4SHVL814 SQ-LP) [00:45:05]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 00:45:35
Output size : 993 MiB (0.97 GiB)

[21:59:25] D:\DVD\WYWH\BD\AVCHD folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[21:59:25] Burn its CONTENTS to BD-R/RE UDF 2.50/2.60 disc!
[21:59:27] Select folder/name for ISO file...
[21:59:46] Using ISO mode / destination: D:\DVD\WYWH\BD_
\WYWH_test_NTSC.iso
[21:59:46] Launching ImgBurn...
[22:00:53] You may now remove temp folder (D:\Temp
\multiTEMP-20101008\).
[22:00:53] Your compilation contains 0hrs 45min 35sec of video
material.

[22:00:53] multiAVCHD finished in 197.466 seconds (00:03:17.465)!

[22:00:53] End of log.

On okt. 9, 00:44, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I won't argue any more... but I dislike disinformation.  One of MANY
> possible quotes... this one from forum.bluray.com...
> S
>
> I believe your last questions answer is NTSC and PAL neither exist anymore
>
> > for HD broadcasts. It's either MPEG2 or maybe MPEG4/AVC. Depending on which
> > channels you have which broadcast HD content.
>
> > Only thing that's NTSC or PAL anymore with any Blu-ray disc is more often
> > then not SD resolution extras. If you have a display button on your remote
> > for your Blu-ray disc player, which I'm sure you will, push it and look to
> > see whether or not the signal being displayed is MPEG2, AVC or VC-1 and what
> > resolution it's in. 480i/p is NTSC and 576i/p is PAL. Now the little "i"
> > denotes interlaced and the little "p" denotes progressive.
> > Actually what it comes down to is how the overall intended look of the
> > film, looks as it's hard encoded to the disc whilst broadcast HD is
> > "bitstreaming" over the carrier you have. As such the bitstreaming HD will
> > of course have more artifacting and moiring, generally, compared to hard
> > encoded discs.
>
> Here's hoping the previous paragraphs were of assistance.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 4:58 PM, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
> > The "NTSC" test version in iso is in my Hub share (Test/WYWH/NTSC). It
> > contains the release message and Britre's UK SQ-LP conversion.
>
> > On okt. 8, 14:32, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The region free burning is a good theory. If you read the specs of the
> > > WYWH BR it states it was burned PAL or Region B. Therefore it goes to
> > > pass that if you have a Region A player it will be a frisbie to that.
> > > I in fact had this trouble with the Muse DVD-A which would not play
> > > until I found a Region 1 rip for here in the USA. There was also a
> > > really good Paul Macrtney Back To The Egg DVD that needed conversion
> > > to play. So perhaps we need to simply re-author the WYWH BR to be
> > > region free?
>
> > > On Oct 8, 3:03 am, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > I'm honestly not an expert on this. However, multiAVCHD tutorial
> > > > highly recommends to choose the TV system during the authoring. Pehaps
> > > > other output formats supported by multiAVCHD need that:
> >http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php
>
> > > > On okt. 8, 03:41, Stephen Disney <sthunderroc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > People are using misnomers here.  There is NO pal or ntsc on blu-ray.
> >  There
> > > > > IS region coding, but it is also possible to build a region free
> > disc. 70%
> > > > > of studio releases are region free.
> > > > > S
>
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Brian Treml <britre...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > I believe we will need a region A, B And C Blu Ray format to fit
> > the
> > > > > > needs of people who do not own universal players and or are not
> > using
> > > > > > the computer to play the compilation. We shall need to identify the
> > > > > > share as to the region it is playable in and not any computer with
> > > > > > proper decoding software will not fret about the region.
>
> > > > > > It is currently in the B format (pal) for Europe ect... If you do
> > not
> > > > > > have a universal player this will not play in America, Africa and
> > > > > > China on your standard Blu Ray player.
>
> > > > > > On Oct 7, 3:26 pm, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > If that is indeed the reason it doesn't play correctly for some
> > of us,
> > > > > > > I'd be happy to have it. I'll keep it shared forever as well.
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 7, 11:09 am, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Britre requested me to create an NTSC version of the
> > compilation.
> > > > > > > > Making it is no problem for me but creating and keeping enough
> > disk
> > > > > > > > space for it for a longer time would be more difficult.
> > Nevertheless,
> > > > > > > > I'll do it if NTSC player users want it. Please take and post
> > your
> > > > > > > > thoughts.
>
> > > > > > > > On okt. 5, 22:27, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > This weekend I'll author and share on the Hub two test
> > versions (~1GB
> > > > > > > > > each) without the welcome screen and the release message,
> > > > > > > > > respectively. We'll see what happens.
>
> > > > > > > > > On okt. 5, 22:08, grill <gr...@index.hu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about this problem and glad you posted this
> > issue
> > > > > > here.
> > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately I can't help you because I only tested the
> > > > > > compilation
> > > > > > > > > > with TotalMedia Theatre 3. I think it's a sort of problem
> > of
> > > > > > > > > > incompatibility. Perhaps the welcome screen I used in
> > multiAVCHD is
> > > > > > > > > > not tolerated by some players. I still have all the files
> > for the
> > > > > > BDA
> > > > > > > > > > so I can reauthor the compilation if it makes sense. First
> > we
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > discover the reason of this problem.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On okt. 5, 20:15, scolumbo <sacolu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm also having trouble playing the WYWH BDA. I've tried
> > using
> > > > > > ImgBurn
> > > > > > > > > > > and and DVDFab to create the iso and burn to disc. I get
> > the
> > > > > > opening
> > > > > > > > > > > menu and then it freezes. I've tried disc playback on a
> > PS3 and
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > PowerDVD on my two PC's with blu-ray players.  I'll try
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > MediaPlayer Classic HD option. Still would like to get
> > the disc
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > menus to play though.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 5, 2:09 pm, ArnoldLayne <arnoldlayn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, there is a free alternative for PC playback:
> > MediaPlayer
> > > > > > Classic
> > > > > > > > > > > > HD. Wont play ISO, only m2ts and no menus, but with
> > ffdshow
> > > > > > filters it
> > > > > > > > > > > > can even bitstream DTS-HD MA.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 oct, 20:03, QTS <katelyn.and.da...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if most people have had luck with
> > either
> > > > > > playing this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on their PC or burning it to disk? After chatting
> > with a few
> > > > > > people on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the HUB, it looks like at least 2 people besides
> > myself are
> > > > > > having
> > > > > > > > > > > > > issues with this release. Personally, I've tried
> > opening the
> > > > > > BD-A
> > > > > > > > > > > > > folder, as well as an ISO created with ImgBurn, from
> > disk
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > PowerDVD (I know, it sucks, but is there any free
> > > > > > alternatives that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > will play back Bluray disks?) with no luck, as well
> > as trying
> > > > > > to burn
> > > > > > > > > > > > > both the BD-A folder and the ISO to disk, also using
> > ImgBurn.
> > > > > > 1 disk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > actually loaded in my PS3, but froze as soon as the
> > first
> > > > > > menu started
> > > > > > > > > > > > > loading. One other person I talked to mentioned this
> > same
> > > > > > issue. Does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone has any suggestions on what to try next, or if
> > any of
> > > > > > you have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > had luck, maybe respond with the steps you took?-
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